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London Gatwick EGKK [released]

Postby karla » Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:29 pm

Development of London Gatwick airport EGKK is well under way and most of the area around the North Terminal has been completed. Piers 4, 5 and 6 have been done as well as the cargo terminal and control tower. I'm using UK CAA charts, my aviation books and Google Earth to obtain details so that I can hand craft textures in Gimp - at no time are copies of any images made. Bing aerial views are also useful and, of course, web searches and sometimes Flickr has has been exploited to understand layouts better.

One aerial view is avaliable at the moment on - (EDIT 23Jun10: link to image removed to save space on webhost - but others are still available)

It would be handy if someone could give me other sources of information on Gatwick, thanks.
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Re: London Gatwick EGKK

Postby Gijs » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:58 am

Looks amazing already!
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Re: London Gatwick EGKK

Postby zakalawe » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:34 am

Gijs, this might increase the pressure for you to finish EGLL ;)

I believe someone has buildings for Luton - and MaverickAlex built some for London City - which just leaves Stanstead (EGSS) un-modelled, I think.
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Re: London Gatwick EGKK

Postby Gijs » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:39 am

zakalawe wrote:Gijs, this might increase the pressure for you to finish EGLL ;)

Sttt! I did not leave that out of my reply by accident! :P
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Re: London Gatwick EGKK

Postby karla » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:20 am

I *was* going to work on London Heathrow but after a few hours study and planning realised it was going to be a 100+ hours job. It's a really complex airport built over many years with add-ons here and there with no consistency - its a mess. London Gatwick evolved the same way but at least one can at least "carry it in your head" and feel able to tackle it.

London Heathrow is too much for one person and it will require a team effort; there don't seem to be enough dedicated Brits around at the moment (I may offer to construct one or two features - but not just yet). It would be great if each nation had their major airport modelled to a high level of detail for FG so that we would tempt anyone around the world who looked in on the game.

EGKK north terminal area almost completed and work on south terminal area is well under way.
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Re: London Gatwick EGKK

Postby zakalawe » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:47 am

I can only concur with the EGLL assessment - T4 and T5 are okay but the inner core of T1-3 is a hideous, organic jumble of buildings and extensions. Information is going to be an issue - walking around the ground-side with a camera would be possible (though I'm sure you'd get stopped every 50 metres to ask if you were a terrorist), but the complexity is largely on the air-side.

I suspect a crude mass-model (aka, white boxes with simple simple textures applied) could be done fairly fast, and then gradually refined as/when people have time and energy (and data) to refine each part.
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Re: London Gatwick EGKK

Postby statto » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:08 am

T4 is currently a crude model but it's there. If anyone is willing to finish it up and make it look halfway decent let me know and I'll post the sketchup file.

T2 is under demolition as well. I must say the one time I had to transfer flights between T4 and T2 was a complete adventure.
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Re: London Gatwick EGKK

Postby MaverickAlex » Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:33 am

James, i also did the Luton airport models, they should already be in the database?
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Re: London Gatwick EGKK

Postby zakalawe » Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:26 am

MaverickAlex wrote:James, i also did the Luton airport models, they should already be in the database?

Yep, they are - I had just forgotten that you were the author, when I was making the list above. Thanks again for you hard work on both Luton and City!
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Re: London Gatwick EGKK

Postby karla » Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:18 pm

Good progress is being made on South Terminal and piers - though many guesses have to be made about details. From time to time I remind myself what's on offer from FSX and free addons and realize that the FGFS Gatwick quality is quite competitive. Frame rates are acceptable and vertices are being kept as few as possible conflicting with the desire for really detailed scenery - a well known dilemma.

Another image to show what's been done so far
(EDIT 23Jun10: link to image removed to save space on webhost - but others are still available)

Please don't complain about the haze - its deliberate at this stage.
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Re: London Gatwick EGKK

Postby zakalawe » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:19 pm

Looking good!
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Re: London Gatwick EGKK

Postby simbabeat » Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:33 am

Wow Karla. Yet again! Amazing.
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Re: London Gatwick EGKK

Postby Hooray » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:44 pm

Please don't send support requests by PM, instead post your questions on the forum so that all users can contribute and benefit
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Re: London Gatwick EGKK

Postby karla » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:10 pm

Thanks guys and thanks Hooray I've saved all the AirNet images and I'll certainly use one or two of them for my detailing work. I'm now reaching a very enjoyable stage where each feature I create adds to an already acceptable level of detail which - I hope - makes the airport *special* to FGFS fans.
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Re: London Gatwick EGKK

Postby statto » Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:36 am

I must say though the airliners images are copyright - you can only use them as reference unless you have the permission of the copyright holder,

Sorry to be the license police, it's not a very enjoyable job,
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