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Re: Piper PA28 Warrior II

Postby Robertfm » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:45 pm

To whom it may concern, is there any chance of moving the RPM Instrument to the vacant mount on the left. This will enable to lower the view. Thank you.
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Re: Piper PA28 Warrior II

Postby danielHL » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:19 pm

Hm, nearly every photo of a Warrior cockpit I could find has it down there next to the throttle lever. That's also where most single engine planes have it, together with all the other engine-related instruments. So out of realism I'd vote against that.
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Re: Piper PA28 Warrior II

Postby Robertfm » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:30 pm

The difference is in a real plane all the cockpit it in view all of the tme. With FG unless you zoom out so instruments are unreadable this isn't the case
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Re: Piper PA28 Warrior II

Postby danielHL » Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:06 pm

That's not true, either. The RPM meter isn't in view, I'd have to tilt my head in the real plane as well. Also, for RPM you have a lot of "secondary indications": engine sound, speed and pitch response, throttle lever position... to monitor during flight, and glance at the RPM only a few times every minute (as compared to the flight instruments which need to be checked every few seconds)

During high-workload phases of flight (takeoff, landing), RPM is rather useless. For takeoff, you put the lever on max anyways (check instrument once for correct power), during landing you either pull back for power off approach or use throttle as needed. The only times you have to adjust power to certain settings is during run-up on the ground or when setting cruise power. Both are low-workload phases where a bit of zooming an panning can easily been done and no other instruments have to be monitored.

Also this depends on resolution and screen size. Even with my meagerly 13" laptop screen I can see the top end of the RPM meter quite well during normal flight and still read all the other instruments...
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Re: Piper PA28 Warrior II

Postby Robertfm » Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:26 pm

All I would say is old planes never use to have Glass Cockpits now they do. Instrument positions therefore in that case is irrelevant as they don't exist. Still that's you opinion.
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Re: Piper PA28 Warrior II

Postby D-ECHO » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:40 pm

I don't understand your last message, care to explain?

In General, realism will always be before convenience
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Re: Piper PA28 Warrior II

Postby Robertfm » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:42 pm

That's fine. It merely meant things change as time moves on. As there was a vacant area it just seemed logical to use it. No big deal.
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Re: Piper PA28 Warrior II

Postby D-ECHO » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:43 pm

Okay thx
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Re: Piper PA28 Warrior II

Postby Johan G » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:28 am

Many off topic posts were split off to the new topic CompositeViver, Canvas and windows outside main window.
Low-level flying — It's all fun and games till someone looses an engine. (Paraphrased from a YouTube video)
Improving the Dassault Mirage F1 (Wiki, Forum, GitLab. Work in slow progress)
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Re: Piper PA28 Warrior II

Postby D-ECHO » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:47 am

Thank you Johan!
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Re: Piper PA28 Warrior II

Postby Johan G » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:19 pm

You are welcome! :)

Though it helped that someone reported one of the posts were the discussion really started to go off topic.
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Re: Piper PA28 Warrior II

Postby Robertfm » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:17 pm

First time for ages update, problem is it won't. There is an error: A local file-system error ouccured. This has happened before but then it stopped. I can't delete plane and re-install any help would be welcome. This time around it has frozen FG. No tabs work.

Edit: Just tried doing update in 2018.3.5 version and that worked correctly (No fine in 2020.1.3). What does that tell our experts. Is there a glitch in 2020.1.3
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Re: Piper PA28 Warrior II

Postby Robertfm » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:12 pm

Why hasn't plane got a trim wheel.
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Re: Piper PA28 Warrior II

Postby D-ECHO » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:40 pm

Because it isnt modelled
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Re: Piper PA28 Warrior II

Postby Robertfm » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:16 pm

Why is that when the plane has it in all versions I have looked at.
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