Thorsten wrote in Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:41 am:After conducting some discussions and thinking of my own - I believe we need at least one decision from grtuxteam now.
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The GPL is designed to grant the freedom to developers to re-use, adapt and re-distribute material such that development does not rest on the goodwill of any single person. The GPL explicitly does not require consent of the original copyright holder.
Somewhat in contrast, the FG policy is to respect creator's rights where reasonably possible. That means that the active maintainer gets to coordinate development and people are encouraged to go through his upstream repository with any changes. Also, should the original creator decide to not place his work on FGAddon but in a 3rd party hangar, the project does not actively seek it out and copy it to set up a competition (even where the legal right to do so exists).
To fix your mind, not sure you can understand , since any dialog with you is definitively impossible, here part of a letter i wrote to Wayne:
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Three years ago when GRTuxTeam ( most of the team members were Gerard's friend)s
took the decision to recover the work done by Gerard we did notice there was a lot of
sketches and perfect models which could be used in the state .
Only some minors adjustment were necessary to get it working against FG version of
the time.
Some of these models were similar to the ones already committed years ago by Gerard
himself.
However those last generation were not derivative but new ones
Gerard did redraw the entire models. Everything is different and new.
These version were said Freeware, or "nothing" license related
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Unfortunately an argument has appeared against us (see Thorsten's answer "see Note below" ).
I remain a virtual character, because for personal reasons I can not devolve my identity.
Josh is not my name nor my first name and i do use a common mail box.
The danger here is that the choice of GPL for these models was conditioned by Gerard's
heirs. they can always say that the presence of these models in Filghtgear with the GPL
license is a good theft.
This places Flightgear in a delicate position because no physical person (*I do not exist, i
am only virtual*) has explicitly taken the responsibility to place these models under GPL.
FlightGear becomes responsible for hijacking.
My conclusion you can't go to put those models to FGAddon.
Since most of the material were not originally GPL , remaining under Gerard family control.=<<<<<<<<<<<<
GPL was the decision of a virtual '"non real Guy" you can't see ME, you can"t know who i am, in such case you won't be able to proof that this hangar is really GPL'zed, since given by NOBODY
Yes , SR71 JSBSim FDM has got some patch from Pinto , yes the same SR71 ( and Crusader ) are using your flame effect copied within the package ( as far i know was your request to an other guy also named Josh ) , yes the Alouette-III has got some benefit from an original AH1S ( coming from Dave Culp hangar Creative Common License ) up to you to try to get in touch with them, and to extract and to use for your own usage.
However more of the 95% of material are originally from Gerard never committed and as long i can read the original documents, the NEW HANGAR related, those material are or Freeware or "nothing",
You can only use the existing old materials, which was originally committed by Gerard himself (2007 ? , and more recently committed on brother-in-law Ahmad request (20013 or 2014 ?).
Are you sure you want to put FlighGear community in a very bad position regarding the Law ?Acting in a way which will create a big confusion.
My virtuality ( let's say GRTuxTeam ) does not keep me off to have a huge respect for that great FlighGear, sophisticated entity.
It was not my intention to create such turbulence, like said i started stepping on the wrong mark line since we were trusting in rules, which are actually fake
We are all "Josh" responsible for that error and we apologize.
[NOTE: extracted from FG devel mailing Thorsten message
I strongly
suspect legally *someone* in the project needs to have your real
credentials- the rest of us never needs to know who you are. It's not so
much that we suspect there's a problem with the copyright of your material
- but what if e.g. FlightProSim claims that they have copyright of the
SR-71 and threatens to sue FG - and all we can say is 'we don't know the
name of the author'?Josh_grtuxteam
BTW: Before engaging that adventure, have you got from Curt his own opinion ? i am sure his own decision will be the best.