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Re: KSFO-pa - PavlinS as un ATC

Postby PINTO » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:11 pm

You should also read up on airspaces.
KSFO (not acting as center) only controls the Class B airspace around it.

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That's only the airspace within the blue lines, and only at the prescribed altitudes. Within the MODE C circle, a pilot must have their transponder set and in mode C. You also (typically) wait until a pilot contacts you, you don't make first contact.

A pilot, say, parked at KSUU about to perform military stuff, has no obligation to you nor can you control said pilot.
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Re: KSFO-pa - PavlinS as un ATC

Postby PavlinS » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:15 pm

So, I should tell it like:

DLH554, you are cleared for Frankfurt Am Main INTL airport, via TRUKN2 deparure, DEDHD transition , then as filrd. Climb via sID, Departure on 120.550 , squawk 4003.

Am I correct?
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Re: KSFO-pa - PavlinS as un ATC

Postby PavlinS » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:20 pm

PINTO,
I am sorry to tell you this - I really do not like you enymore and , do not post on my topics enymore! I do not take advice form someone who does not how to bechave with someone, you did not know it's 3 names even!
That behaviour is not tolarate from me!
As you cna see no one is contacting ATC right now, 7 pilots, and no one is contacting the ATC. This is every time I dare to come on the airport to learn ATC. I am not experienced, as I said. But for me every pilot on 100 NM in the area is under controll. So Exuse me, but your language it is not properiate, I have people watching me right now, I do not tolarate such of bechavior!
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Re: KSFO-pa - PavlinS as un ATC

Postby Octal450 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:33 pm

@PavlinS
That is good enough, yes.

This SID will get you through a departure gate, outside the Class B airspace.

If you are also departure, you can say departure with me.

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Re: KSFO-pa - PavlinS as un ATC

Postby Octal450 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:40 pm

@PavlinS
Why don't you like pinto? He gave you good advice. If you understand Airspaces (Class A, B, C, etc) you will have easier time controlling.

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Re: KSFO-pa - PavlinS as un ATC

Postby PINTO » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:42 pm

haha sorry about that, just trying to help. I can definitely be a jerk tho. Learn your airspaces if you want to ATC realistically.
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Re: KSFO-pa - PavlinS as un ATC

Postby PINTO » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:45 pm

@it0uchpods because i was a jerk when he tried controlling me as i was sitting on the ground cold at KSUU.

@PavlinS progressive taxiing means the pilot is requesting you to tell them to "turn left here, turn right there", and is requested when the pilot is unfamiliar with the airport and doesn't know where taxiway F is (for instance). Just FYI.

Also, we can set you up with a voice/text channel on the FG discord if you want that too.
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Re: KSFO-pa - PavlinS as un ATC

Postby Octal450 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:02 am

Understood.

@PavlinS If you want to watch me ATC once, I may open up EHAM in the next few days.
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Re: KSFO-pa - PavlinS as un ATC

Postby PavlinS » Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:10 am

I do not know EHAM, So, I can not operate there. Also I am not on this level of expertise, You are Jomo members, I can not learn from you, because you are advanced.
Pinto, there is a map for that:
https://www.google.bg/maps/@37.6150207,-122.3858115,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1upxhxay6L2pnism-aFYlVi_KVv8?hl=en

It includes several airports, But I do not have time to do more now.

Here has a Topic about ground operations in FG. there is published, this map!
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Re: KSFO-pa - PavlinS as un ATC

Postby PavlinS » Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:13 am

I have been ATC here 5 times. I am not experienced at all, so that's why I ask " Gave me some job" to learn it.
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Re: KSFO-pa - PavlinS as un ATC

Postby Octal450 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:08 am

You cannot learn from my because I am advanced? What?
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Re: KSFO-pa - PavlinS as un ATC

Postby PavlinS » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:13 am

I can not learn, because you are on level that I can not understand at all.
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Re: KSFO-pa - PavlinS as un ATC

Postby PavlinS » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:14 am

Interesting, why most of the people on this simulator does not know the Taxiways of KSFO? It is the first and the noob airport in FG, you should know it!
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Re: KSFO-pa - PavlinS as un ATC

Postby Octal450 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:13 am

PavlinS wrote:I can not learn, because you are on level that I can not understand at all.

That is backwards, me being on that "level" would allow me to teach you. I don't understand why
PavlinS wrote:I can not learn


KSFO is where most of the people who want FG as a "game", or do not know much yet.

I started at KSFO, then when I gained more knowledge, I went another airports.

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Re: KSFO-pa - PavlinS as un ATC

Postby PavlinS » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:47 am

Well lfive times ATC controller is too low experience for me. So..........
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