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Re: EPWA Taxidraw

Postby BecOzIcan » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:23 am

pommesschranke wrote in Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:42 am:
can you commit to official FGDATA or know somebody who can do that ?



Groundnets are not part of FGData (Parking.xml only). I will post them in batch in the Devlist next month

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Re: EPWA Taxidraw

Postby pommesschranke » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:21 pm

Is parking.xml needed for anything?
I think it did get replaced with ICAO.groundnet.xml
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Re: EPWA Taxidraw

Postby BecOzIcan » Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:39 pm

Hahaha tI really don t know, I have just replicated the original set up I found in FG. Also I run 2.12 and I believe it conditions which ParkPos you can pick as startup location in the airport selection screen. But again just a gut feel.
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Re: EPWA Taxidraw

Postby wkitty42 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:58 pm

FWIW: an example is CYVR...

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fgdata/AI/Airports/CYVR/parking.xml            36101    2015 Mar 09
terrasync/Airports/C/Y/V/CYVR.groundnet.xml    78931    2016 Apr 18


CYYC, EDDF, EDDI, EDDT, EDHL, EGKK and i'm fairly sure all the others in fgdata all have newer ICAO.groundnet.xml files...

based on this and past discussions, updating them in terrasync would be the better option, wouldn't it?

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i don't know how 2.12 would compare with 2016.1.1 and newer... if/when the fgdata/AI/Airports stuff is eliminated, it'll all be in the terrasync/Airports/I/C/A/ICAO.groundnet.xml files... i know we just also moved all the misplaced 3-letter ICA.*.xml files up one directory to where they needed to be... the misplaced ones were in I/C/A/ instead of I/C... that was something like 40000 files IIRC...
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Re: EPWA Taxidraw

Postby SP-KOK » Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:02 am

I checked taxidraw for EPWA. I noticed a small mistake. Some planes circling outside the airport.
This applies to aircraft arriving and taxiing to the runway.
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Re: EPWA Taxidraw

Postby BecOzIcan » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:25 am

SP-KOK wrote in Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:02 am:I checked taxidraw for EPWA. I noticed a small mistake. Some planes circling outside the airport.
This applies to aircraft arriving and taxiing to the runway.


Only thing I can think of is that I had no exit at the end of the runway 15 (red in Picture) is this where you see an issue ? if not please provide a screenshot or more precise location
It's a known problem that AI will not accept arriving aircrafts to exit the runway at intermediary taxiways.

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Please try THIS update which contains the missing segment and revert for confirmation

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Re: EPWA Taxidraw

Postby SP-KOK » Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:34 pm

http://imgur.com/MhKKT8c

Airplanes and airports in the middle and end of the same circling outside the airport.
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Re: EPWA Taxidraw

Postby BecOzIcan » Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:41 pm

Hmm very strange. I cannot see any obvious reason for this behaviour. Will try to reproduce later this week and revert
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Re: EPWA Taxidraw

Postby SP-KOK » Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:46 pm

I do not know why this happens, taxidraw looks properly done.
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Re: EPWA Taxidraw

Postby BecOzIcan » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:14 am

Did you clear (deleted) your navdata file so FG can start clean an rebuild AI on next startup ? (C:/user/YOURPROFILENAME/AppData/Roaming/Flighgear/navdata (from top of my head)
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Re: EPWA Taxidraw

Postby SP-KOK » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:06 am

I did as you wrote, but did not give it effect.
I also noticed one thing. I tried to do it yourself and taxidraw eg at the airport UKBB not show me no aircraft. Maybe this is the wine in my computer ???
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Re: EPWA Taxidraw

Postby BecOzIcan » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:35 am

Please send me your ukbb.groundnet.xml and I will have a look
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Re: EPWA Taxidraw

Postby BecOzIcan » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:51 am

pommesschranke wrote in Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:21 pm:Is parking.xml needed for anything?
I think it did get replaced with ICAO.groundnet.xml


Just ran a quick test :

- added Cargo ParkPos to my VTBS groundnet
- did NOT save the file as parking in FGData/AI/Airports/VTBS (only as MySceneries/Airport/V/T/B/VTBS.groundnet.xml)

New ParkPos still appear in the list of available starting positions in FGRUN for FG 2.12 ; I am afraid you are right and the parking.xml is actually useless :-)

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Re: EPWA Taxidraw

Postby BecOzIcan » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:12 am

SP-KOK wrote in Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:34 pm:http://imgur.com/MhKKT8c

Airplanes and airports in the middle and end of the same circling outside the airport.


Thinking about it. where Airports have no groundnet, the planes are magically appearing in the middle/centre of the airport then taxi in straight line to their take off position. If you have this behavior (looks like the Aeroflot plane is doing that on your picture) it could be a sign there are not enough parking space in my network. I will add more over the week end to see if it changes anything for you
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Re: EPWA Taxidraw

Postby SP-KOK » Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:01 am

I'll try you on the weekend to send email groundsnet my work and see whether it properly done
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