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Re: Distribution of unlicensed works by the FGMEMBERS organi

Postby rominet » Sun May 29, 2016 7:51 pm

So, it's okay to attack someone in a dark forest because the risk of being seen is very low? Wow...
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Re: Distribution of unlicensed works by the FGMEMBERS organi

Postby skyop » Sun May 29, 2016 8:09 pm

Hooray wrote in Sun May 29, 2016 7:25 pm:suing could be considered ridiculous depending on how much development/activity the aircraft has seen since then, i.e. the intent of the aircraft developer was definitely having a single development stream, but for that actual "development" could be considered the prerequisite - i.e. if its development has obviously stalled by all standards, any attempts at suing would be almost certainly rejected in the line of the communicated intent of the creator of the original work.


Are you sure about "almost certainly?" The text of the license does not indicate anything about "active development," and that is what defines what's legal and what's not. Your supposition that the developer meant for development to continue, however likely, is just a guess.

Hooray wrote in Sun May 29, 2016 7:25 pm:Equally, the statement itself is hugely contradictory, too - i.e. mentioning upfront that the work is intended to become GPL, and even LGPL, while excluding commercial use is symptomatic for a deep misunderstanding of the correspondign licenses in the first place; as all of us should know by now, there's no way for GPL'ed software to be excluded from being commercialized.


This is irrelevant. It's not a GPL license, it's a statement that some future version that doesn't exist may be GPL-licensed.

And to play devil's advocate: perhaps he meant he won't ever commercialize his own work.

Hooray wrote in Sun May 29, 2016 7:25 pm:Thus, this case would stand on shaky grounds, if not even quicksand - at which point it ending up at fgmembers may not be the worst thing to happen ... :D


Perhaps so, with the original license intact.
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Re: Distribution of unlicensed works by the FGMEMBERS organi

Postby Bomber » Sun May 29, 2016 8:13 pm

rominet wrote in Sun May 29, 2016 7:51 pm:So, it's okay to attack someone in a dark forest because the risk of being seen is very low? Wow...


Crickey you weren't so vocal when the excuse for getting away with it on fgaddon as opposed to fgmembers was that it wasn't so blatant.
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Re: Distribution of unlicensed works by the FGMEMBERS organi

Postby rominet » Sun May 29, 2016 8:24 pm

Er, can you quote me participating in that discussion? Somehow I doubt it...
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Re: Distribution of unlicensed works by the FGMEMBERS organi

Postby Bomber » Sun May 29, 2016 11:41 pm

No because you were so quiet..... seems like you only have a problem when it comes to Fgmembers and copyright infringement. ..

And that'd be this discussion...
( I think...... Red wine alert )

A bit two faced I'd say
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Re: Distribution of unlicensed works by the FGMEMBERS organi

Postby rominet » Mon May 30, 2016 9:00 am

You seem to assume I somehow read every FG-related discussion and approve every point of every message I don't explicitely reply to? Sorry, but that is a wrong assumption (which should not be much of a surprise to those who have followed this thread).

And now, you resort to ridiculous, kindergarten-level ad-hominem attacks? The last entrenchment, eh? I thought you were seeking help in understanding copyright and licenses—which this thread clearly shows you ought to be doing—but I was mistaken: you are just trolling. Sorry, I am not here for that. Goodbye.
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Re: Distribution of unlicensed works by the FGMEMBERS organi

Postby Bomber » Mon May 30, 2016 9:07 am

Heh if you only read half a conversation and then make a smart arsed comment like you did with the killing in the forest statement. Don't be too surprised if someone pulls you up on it.

If you don't like the 2 faced comment I think you need to grow a thicker skin...

Cause if I can be called a leech for simply wanting to protect my work from commercial use whilst at the same time giving it freely to Flightgear. Then I can surely call you to task for only listening to one side of the argument which you have now admitted too.

But please do explain how your comments were helping me understand copyright and licencing.. I'm all ears.
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Re: Distribution of unlicensed works by the FGMEMBERS organi

Postby Thorsten » Mon May 30, 2016 9:29 am

The risk being that an unrealistic law suit is attempted.....


I dunno - one of these days, you'll manage to annoy someone so much he gives GitHub a hint - then it's their legal liability and you can watch them pull the plug if they judge the legal risk different from you.
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Re: Distribution of unlicensed works by the FGMEMBERS organi

Postby bugman » Mon May 30, 2016 9:37 am

There are some lawyers that will do almost anything when they smell money! For legal issues, never assume never ;)

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Re: Distribution of unlicensed works by the FGMEMBERS organi

Postby Bomber » Mon May 30, 2016 9:54 am

Thorsten wrote in Mon May 30, 2016 9:29 am:
The risk being that an unrealistic law suit is attempted.....


I dunno - one of these days, you'll manage to annoy someone so much he gives GitHub a hint - then it's their legal liability and you can watch them pull the plug if they judge the legal risk different from you.



Is that a threat... ?
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Re: Distribution of unlicensed works by the FGMEMBERS organi

Postby Thorsten » Mon May 30, 2016 9:59 am

Well, if there's no legal risk in your opinion, it can't be a threat, because there's nothing being done wrong, right?
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Re: Distribution of unlicensed works by the FGMEMBERS organi

Postby Bomber » Mon May 30, 2016 10:05 am

No that's not how threats work.....

It sounds to me like you were threatening Fgmembers....

The fact that I don't take you seriously or that I don't believe the outcome will be as you think.. just means that I think it's an empty threat.

But it's still a threat carried out by you on another member or group of members of this community.

You can back track all ya like but it's now public knowledge of what a nasty piece of work you are.
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Re: Distribution of unlicensed works by the FGMEMBERS organi

Postby bugman » Mon May 30, 2016 10:14 am

This thread is now locked - it has degraded into personal attacks and a flamewar, and it contains no productive discussions about the original subject.

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