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Red Bull Air Race: Request for help with 3d models

Postby Torsten » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:57 pm

Hi all,

as some of you are probably aware of, the Red Bull Air Race is using FlightGear for various tasks during planing and preparation of their races. Our Zivko Edge 540 in fgaddon is often used to virtually test-fly a track and to create introduction videos for the racing teams.
We have already received some valuable feedback from the Air Race team. For example the EFIS and the g-load led strip indicator included in the Edge has been modeled after the real thing after being able to visit the team in Gdynia, Poland last summer.
Over the last years we have developed a very friendly relationship to the team, this year at FSweekend we had one of their members at our booth. Check the video at 2:44.

I think, none of us was able to complete the track, I usually crashed no later than the second gate while Alvaro, our pro always completed realistically in less than a minute while still looking relaxed.

For the next season they are evaluating several new locations, one of them is the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. To make their evaluation as realistic as possible, they need good scenery. Unfortunately, we don't have anything there and they are looking into FSX (insert some sound of disgust here).

Here comes my challenge for our 3d and texture artists:

Would some of you like to create a virtual motor speedway with all its buildings, signs etc and check them in into our scenemodels database? There are many photos available on the net, the racetracks itself are in OSM. The terrain generation tool is already working, but we need objects!

Be sure, some of the best pilots of world will see and like your work!

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Re: Red Bull Air Race: Request for help with 3d models

Postby MIG29pilot » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:10 pm

This sounds like a good challenge for Marc Kraus-remember he made those great motorcycle racetracks, as well as live timing?
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Re: Red Bull Air Race: Request for help with 3d models

Postby Martien van der P. » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:49 pm

How about The Flying Bulls liveries then? Still not possible to release it because it's a trademark? But further it's quite awesome they use FlightGear.
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Re: Red Bull Air Race: Request for help with 3d models

Postby MIG29pilot » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:55 pm

Well, as they use FG themselves, I should think they'd give us permission to use it if we asked, and if we promised to make a track for them.
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Re: Red Bull Air Race: Request for help with 3d models

Postby statto » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:39 pm

To be honest, this is a very big ask. I'm happy to place as many static objects as I can around the racetrack this weekend, though - mostly water tanks.
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Re: Red Bull Air Race: Request for help with 3d models

Postby DFaber » Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:43 am

I'd volunteer to make some Buildings. I guess it's best to start off with the Pagoda Control Tower and the tribunes.
What is the deadline for the scenery?

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Re: Red Bull Air Race: Request for help with 3d models

Postby radi » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:45 am

There are some buildings in Google's 3d Warehouse. It might be worthwhile to ask the original author whether he'd release those under the GPL.

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collec ... 62631e77cc
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Re: Red Bull Air Race: Request for help with 3d models

Postby Torsten » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:44 pm

No exact deadline as far as I know. But I would assume that evaluation of locations for the next season is right now.

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Re: Red Bull Air Race: Request for help with 3d models

Postby LesterBoffo » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:22 pm

You know getting a better idea of what scenery exactly they want to use would be crucial.

I mean Indianapolis is just one of how many?
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Re: Red Bull Air Race: Request for help with 3d models

Postby Thorsten » Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:05 pm

The Red Bull Air Race I've seen in Lelystad used a floating 3d chunk of terrain rather than our regular terrain mesh - I guess it's more about having the 3d models at this point than about accurately placing them.
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Re: Red Bull Air Race: Request for help with 3d models

Postby DFaber » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:31 am

I've done the Pagoda Building. It's just a little lonely right now...

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Re: Red Bull Air Race: Request for help with 3d models

Postby Torsten » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:39 pm

Neat, thanks! (I like the greeter.)
FWIW, Martin has kindly created a scenery chunk from the new vectorized US landcover data. The race track comes out nicely :-)
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Will you upload your work to scenemodels?

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Re: Red Bull Air Race: Request for help with 3d models

Postby DFaber » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:31 am

Torsten wrote in Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:39 pm:Will you upload your work to scenemodels?


Sure I will, but it seems I have the coordinates wrong. Looking at your screenshot the building would sit approximately on the narrow straight GP Course near the middle of the track Area. It should be further to the West.
I took the coordinates from openstreetmap. Does anybody know a better source of coordinates or shall I simply align them to the given Course (btw is it in terrasync?).

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Re: Red Bull Air Race: Request for help with 3d models

Postby Torsten » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:34 am

DFaber wrote in Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:31 am: Does anybody know a better source of coordinates

Take a handheld GPS and go there? :D

I'd use OSM for coordinates, too. Because our streets come from OSM, that would probably be the best match.

The generated terrain is just a 1x1deg chunk of that area. Putting it into terrasync would most likely make the edges look awkward.
I'll make it accessible from a public URL when I am back at my FG development machine.

BTW: the most interesting part would be the eastern part of the area with the golf course: every single obstacle, tree, building, video wall, sign and the grand stands.

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Re: Red Bull Air Race: Request for help with 3d models

Postby MIG29pilot » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:25 pm

Ought to add Marc's live timing gizmo to the Zivko Edge.
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