Lydiot wrote in Mon May 12, 2014 9:08 pm:Well, that's debatable I think. On the one hand a plane that gets into controlled space is possibly an 'issue', and on the other hand for this event some people will want to fly uncontrolled. So the key is finding a balance I think.
Well, it might be much simpler to handle airports the way they are handled in real life. If it's a major airport, then it can be classified as controlled. If it's a small airport without a tower, then we could have it the same way in real life. But I think it's important for pilots to report what they are doing, and where they are headed. Even if you are flying in uncontrolled airspace, you wouldn't want to collide. It could turn into a KSFO scenario.
Lydiot wrote in Mon May 12, 2014 9:08 pm:I don't think so. In that case it was my fault as a controller. I should have paid more attention and more firmly asserted what the planes should have done. When you guys got close the options were letting you land close or tell one of you to abort and go around. I chose the former and that was not realistic. Some ATCs will obviously be very firm and others loose. I think I was too much the latter, even though I admit it took me somewhat by surprise.
Really it's solved by enforcing better spacing earlier during approach, before final.
Actually, I think the issue was much simpler. One of the planes landed on the left instead of right.
But people should not be on final approach if there is traffic. Telling a plane to abort while on approach isn't the safest thing to do either. Once again, I don't think that you were at fault. The issue is that there needs to be a better (read as more realistic) system for take offs and landings.
This is the only part where I'll disagree with you. The ATC should have some sort of record of what planes are doing. OpenRadar makes this task very simple.
As for the last part about priorities and ground control...
Clearance delivery might be needed, yes. But it could be useful if we could avoid pushback, startup, and taxi instruction. As sometimes, planes have to restart a lot, and you would have to go through the whole process again. This isn't a problem if the approach isn't heavy. But I'm saying this with an assumption that there will be a multitude of planes arriving in a short period of time.
The hierarchy seems more realistic.
It will work out if one of the people in the hierarchy isn't bored or asleep.