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Re: NASA 747 with space shuttle piggy backing

Postby IceMan2 » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:45 pm

it is in the works at school right now
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Re: NASA 747 with space shuttle piggy backing

Postby R-Dude » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:59 pm

IceMan2 wrote:Absolutely, I’m a big supporter of open source.


William Thompson
Calgary, Alberta, Canada

From: 3dwarehouse-support@google.com [mailto:3dwarehouse-support@google.com]
Sent: March-15-09 3:55 PM
To: wthompson@shaw.ca
Subject: Suggested translations for 3D model "Boeing 747-100 NASA Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA)"

Ace40 has sent you a message about your 3D model Boeing 747-100 NASA Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA).
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Hi I make planes for a flight simulator named Flightgear http://www.flightgear.org i you can give me permission to make it a functional plane i flightgear I would appreciate it if you can git can git back with me as soon as you can i would appreciate it also thanks.


so i have his permission

here are some quick pic with Liam's 767 in the background..............

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I need help with the files a animations if anyone can i would appreciate it. Here is the link to download the sketchup model.....

:arrow: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=4cf0677f5a984293c1ccec171a275967&prevstart=24


IceMan2, I would like you to give me an honest answer. Did you really get William Thompson's permission?

His response seems awfully familiar with the response Liam received for his 767 model: http://flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=28970#p28970

I'm not inferring that you didn't receive his permission, but if you really didn't, you and the FlightGear project could get into some serious copyright issues with Mr. Thompson. If you haven't asked him, that doesn't mean that you can't proceed. If you inquire about using his model, I'm sure he will accept like he did for Liam. But copying and pasting another response doesn't mean that you received his permission. ;)

If you did receive his real permission, my mistake.

Still, I doubt that you would receive the exact same response as Liam with the same punctuation, etc. If you didn't receive permission, it would be much easier to ask and, most likely, receive an acceptance a few hours later, rather than get into a potential lawsuit.

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Re: NASA 747 with space shuttle piggy backing

Postby IceMan2 » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:30 am

Unfortunately I can't help you out there. I don't use SketchUp anymore (no time), and I don't have a copy of the Pro version anymore so I don't have the means to export it.

Sorry,

----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Kenning
Date: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:36 am
Subject: Re: Suggested translations for 3D model "Boeing 747-100 NASA Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA)"
To:

> can you export it to an ac file for me the upload it so i can
> download it and put it into blender??
>
> Eric K.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: anonymous
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:49:14 PM
> Subject: RE: Suggested translations for 3D model "Boeing 747-100
> NASA Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA)"
>
>
> Absolutely, I’m a big
> supporter of open source.
>
>
> William Thompson
> Calgary, Alberta, Canada
>
> From:3dwarehouse-support@google.com
> [mailto:3dwarehouse-support@google.com]
> Sent: March-15-09 3:55 PM
> To:
> Subject: Suggested translations for 3D model "Boeing 747-100 NASA
> Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA)"
>
> Ace40 has sent you a message about your 3D model Boeing
> 747-100 NASA Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA).
> ---
>
> Hi I make planes for a flight simulator named Flightgear
> http://www.flightgear.org i
> you can give me permission to make it a functional plane i
> flightgear I would
> appreciate it if you can git can git back with me as soon as you
> can i would
> appreciate it also thanks.
>
> ________________________________
>
> This message was sent from Ace40 through Google 3D Warehouse. To
> report a problem, please click here.
>
>
>

W. Thompson
Alberta, Canada




Here is some more proof

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Re: NASA 747 with space shuttle piggy backing

Postby Liam » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:11 am

I think you should leave that poor guy alone Lol. All i wanted was permission to use 1 model :roll: I didnt expect others to email him asking him to practically work for us! ha
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Re: NASA 747 with space shuttle piggy backing

Postby stuart » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:31 pm

Guys,

Two comments with my Moderator hat on.

Firstly, please do not include email addresses in forum posts, as they are liable to get harvested by spam bots. This is particularly important for other people's addresses.

Secondly, if you're asking for permission to use someone elses model, and intend to include it in the core FG CVS, or the World Scenery DB, you need to get them to explicitly release the model under the Gnu GPL v2. it is not sufficiently simply to ask them if you can include it in FlightGear. I would suggest including the email trail that explicitly includes this permission within the aircraft files themselves.

I know this sounds very pernickity, but it is highly important for the future of FG that we don't end up with licensing issues and lawsuits because someone mis-understood what they were releasing.

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Re: NASA 747 with space shuttle piggy backing

Postby MyName » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:40 pm

HHS wrote:
MyName wrote:Just to help a bit: Open your model in Blender, go into Edit Mode, press F9, go to the "Modifiers" panel, select all objects, click "Add Modifier", select "Subsurf". Increase Level and Render Level to 2-3 and click Apply. :lol:


Ha ha- funny! :roll: what's your intention for that? It just increases the polys, which affects the perfomance in AI and changes the form of the model as well negative!
"Set Smooth" is just right!

Just create a low-quality AI version of this aircraft. 8)
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Re: NASA 747 with space shuttle piggy backing

Postby HHS » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:41 pm

MyName wrote:
HHS wrote:
MyName wrote:Just to help a bit: Open your model in Blender, go into Edit Mode, press F9, go to the "Modifiers" panel, select all objects, click "Add Modifier", select "Subsurf". Increase Level and Render Level to 2-3 and click Apply. :lol:


Ha ha- funny! :roll: what's your intention for that? It just increases the polys, which affects the perfomance in AI and changes the form of the model as well negative!
"Set Smooth" is just right!

Just create a low-quality AI version of this aircraft. 8)


But only when you decrease polys. Subsurf increases polys!
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Re: NASA 747 with space shuttle piggy backing

Postby IceMan2 » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:51 pm

how is you progress on the fdm?
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Re: NASA 747 with space shuttle piggy backing

Postby IceMan2 » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:23 pm

here is some pics with the plane to scale.......... and i added Gijs's 747-400 cockpit :mrgreen:

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PS: Gijs can i use your 747-400 cockpit??? :lol:
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Re: NASA 747 with space shuttle piggy backing

Postby mdsmith » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:36 pm

There is a 747-100 for FlightGear right? if so we probably use its FDM and use weights/ballasts to account for the shuttle, and maybe add lift/drag from the shuttle.
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Re: NASA 747 with space shuttle piggy backing

Postby IceMan2 » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:37 pm

kool can u help me this is the part i'm not very good at??
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Re: NASA 747 with space shuttle piggy backing

Postby HHS » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:40 pm

The Nasa 747 has not the modern cockpit from the 747-400. The cockpit and systems from the 747-200 would make it more realistic!
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Re: NASA 747 with space shuttle piggy backing

Postby IceMan2 » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:41 pm

ok thanks for the tip :)
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Re: NASA 747 with space shuttle piggy backing

Postby IceMan2 » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:47 am

done i changed the cockpit can some one help me do the xml files i not good when it comes to that stuff.
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Re: NASA 747 with space shuttle piggy backing

Postby IceMan2 » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:47 pm

I going to put this project on the back burner for a wile so i can work on the EMB145 American Eagle I'm make here is a link to the forum http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3304 :mrgreen:
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