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Eject shells in bombable

Postby runtujazz » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:57 pm

It would be very difficult to add an animation so that you can see the ejection of shells when the guns are in action? I think that would add an extra touch of realism.

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Re: Eject shells in bombable

Postby jack » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:52 am

Actually, this wouldn't be very difficult at all. That is a very good idea. I'll try modeling different shells(i.e. 7.62mm, 30mm, 20mm, etc.) tonight, and see if I can add the shell ejection to the harrier. I'll post another reply when I'm done.
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Re: Eject shells in bombable

Postby jack » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:48 am

Ok done. You can download the harrier with ejecting shells here.
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Re: Eject shells in bombable

Postby runtujazz » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:28 pm

.... I have to learn to fly with this plane. Maybe I should specify that I was referring to the aircraft set bombable. I think you've certainly done a wonderful job. I suppose that in addition to the modeling of shells there is the code, do you think could be used for other aircraft set bombable? It would be wonderful.

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Re: Eject shells in bombable

Postby xiii » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:32 pm

The British Aerospace Harrier carries two Aden 30 mm gun pods. See http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/mauserandaden.cfm

"Spent cartridge cases and empty links are ducted from the rear of the gun into a collection bay immediately behind the gun."

Well, it may be funny, but it is unrealistic. Ever better search before doing anything wrong.

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Re: Eject shells in bombable

Postby gooneybird » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:57 pm

Mauser
Spent cartridge cases and empty links are ducted from the rear of the gun into a collection bay immediately behind the gun


Aden
During firing the empty cartridges are ejected overboard and the links retained in a compartment at the rear of the pod
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Re: Eject shells in bombable

Postby xiii » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:14 pm

Sorry, my mistake. Much to learn here, in my case ;-)
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Re: Eject shells in bombable

Postby jack » Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:30 am

xiii, I suggest you put more time into your research before discrediting work next time. :wink:
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Re: Eject shells in bombable

Postby jack » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:29 am

Luckily, I happen to have quite a few shells around the house(everything from 30mm to 7.62mm), which helps me a LOT with making 3d models of the different shells. I just finished the 7.62mm Shell, and will probably apply it to the A6M2, Fokker DR 1, and sopwith camel. I'm pretty sure those aircraft use the 7.62, but I'll double check first.

EDIT: Actually, the Sopwith Camel uses the .303, I'll have to go and see if I have one of those laying around. :)

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Re: Eject shells in bombable

Postby jack » Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:35 am

Ok, turns out the closest thing I could find to the .303 was a .308 I guess that'll have to do. :o I'm sure that nobody will be able to tell the difference of the two shells when flying by at 50 mph. :wink:
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Re: Eject shells in bombable

Postby jack » Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:14 am

Ok, here is the Sopwith Camel with shell ejecting effect: Sopwith Camel
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Re: Eject shells in bombable

Postby runtujazz » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:30 am

Last edited by runtujazz on Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:56 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Eject shells in bombable

Postby jack » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:52 am

runtujazz wrote:http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ICuLB148bJU/Sc-AF921lYI/AAAAAAAACtk/wpopt0Qm1Kg/s320/.303+British

could be interesting for rendering?


Well, pictures are ok, but I prefer to be able to hold/touch a tangible object. This makes modeling a lot easier for me. I'll work on the Focke DR.1 next. Expect a release by tomorrow night. :)
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Re: Eject shells in bombable

Postby ethan3391 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:09 am

Just as a heads up-you probably already know this, but either way-7.62 doesn't mean anything. It's just the diameter of the bullet carried in the cartridge, and when dealing with shell casings, you need more than just bullet diameter. Here are a just few 7.62's.

Pistol
    7.62x25mm Tokarev
    7.65x17mm Browning
    7.63x25mm Mauser
    7.65x22mm Parabellum

Rifle
    7.62x39mm
    7.62x51mm NATO
    7.62x54mmR
    7.62x63mm
    7.62x33mm
    7.62x67mm
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Re: Eject shells in bombable

Postby hellcat » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:40 am

I did some research on the kind of rounds used by certain aircraft. Note that some aircraft have cannons as well, so I included information on that as well.

Cannons:
FW190, Ki-84, BF109, A6M2: 20mm (cannon)

MG:
F4U-1, P-51D, Ki-84, F6F: 12.7mm

Spitfire/Seafire, Hurricane: 7.7mm

BF109, FW190: 13mm
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