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Re: Red Griffin ATC - Speaking ATC addon for Flightgear

Postby pb321 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:43 pm

I tried to install the release candidate alongside the beta, then deleted the beta before removing it from within FlightGear. This resulted in a crash.
To get things working right, I had to restore the beta from the recycle bin, launch FlightGear, then remove the beta from the available add-ons. After doing this, the release candidate worked as it should with no crashes. Hope this helps with the issue described above.
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Re: Red Griffin ATC - Speaking ATC addon for Flightgear

Postby miguel » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:58 pm

I also have a similar problem. I confirm

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Re: Red Griffin ATC - Speaking ATC addon for Flightgear

Postby RedGriffin » Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:41 pm

pb321 wrote in Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:43 pm:I tried to install the release candidate alongside the beta, then deleted the beta before removing it from within FlightGear. This resulted in a crash.
To get things working right, I had to restore the beta from the recycle bin, launch FlightGear, then remove the beta from the available add-ons. After doing this, the release candidate worked as it should with no crashes. Hope this helps with the issue described above.


miguel wrote in Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:58 pm:I also have a similar problem. I confirm

I am sorry about the touble you are having in installing the RC1. I can confirm everything is working fine here.
I suggest, again, to check whether the addon has been installed twice as well as trying to remove Flightgear's cache or check the FlightGear.ini file.
As far as I can tell, I do not think changing the repository or advancing to RC can cause such problems.
I hope you all can fix or overcome such problems. Please do not hesitate to let me know in case you experience problems.

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Re: Red Griffin ATC - Speaking ATC addon for Flightgear

Postby pb321 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:52 pm

Perhaps I was misunderstood. I consider the issue a minor one that will likely occur when updating ANY add-on.
I posted what hopefully is a fix:
1) restore or reinstall the previous version, then
2) remove it using the Remove Add-on option within the Add-ons section of FlightGear. Once all previous versions of RedGriffinATC are removed,
3) add the latest version, the Release Candidate.
Have you tried this procedure, Miguel? If so, what were the results?
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Re: Red Griffin ATC - Speaking ATC addon for Flightgear

Postby RedGriffin » Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:13 pm

pb321 wrote in Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:52 pm:Perhaps I was misunderstood. I consider the issue a minor one that will likely occur when updating ANY add-on.

Thank you for clarifying that.
Did you have the time to try and test this release? Do you experience the problems you had with beta 3 and related to radio and airport names?
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Re: Red Griffin ATC - Speaking ATC addon for Flightgear

Postby pb321 » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:51 am

Yes, I have used the RC some but not extensively. The problems reported for the beta were not present so far.
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Re: Red Griffin ATC - Speaking ATC addon for Flightgear

Postby RedGriffin » Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:12 am

pb321 wrote in Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:51 am:Yes, I have used the RC some but not extensively. The problems reported for the beta were not present so far.

Great!
Thank you for your feedback.
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Re: Red Griffin ATC - Speaking ATC addon for Flightgear

Postby Michat » Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:52 am

We will check it.
Thank you for your explanation.

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Re: Red Griffin ATC - Speaking ATC addon for Flightgear

Postby RedGriffin » Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:31 pm

Michat wrote in Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:52 am:We will check it.
Thank you for your explanation.

I hope the above suggestions and hints will work things out for you.
Please let me know and thanks for your time and for testing Red Griffin ATC!
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Re: Red Griffin ATC - Speaking ATC addon for Flightgear

Postby Michat » Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:48 pm

I have spoken with Miguel. He removed drastically all content in flightgear.org.

He made a search, there were 3 addon-metadata.xml in conflicting to be removed. Addon-selection on launcher were stacked. So he was drastic, then the Addon-selection on launcher got free and operative again.

We gonna test it this weekend.

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Re: Red Griffin ATC - Speaking ATC addon for Flightgear

Postby RedGriffin » Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:31 pm

Michat wrote in Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:48 pm:I have spoken with Miguel. He removed drastically all content in flightgear.org.
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We gonna test it this weekend.

I am sure it was because of that and removing those duplicates will hopefully fix everything.

Happy testing and please let me know about your feedback.

I think I am going to release RC 2 this weekend with minor bugfixes and a couple of "minor" improvements.
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Re: Red Griffin ATC - Speaking ATC addon for Flightgear

Postby RedGriffin » Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:08 pm

I have just released RedGriffin ATC version 1.0.0 Release Candidate 2!

You can download the latest version, as usual, from the sourceforge repository.
You are invited to test it and report your feedback and suggestions.

This is the changelog for version 1.0.0 RC 2 - 8 March 2020

    - Added Usage / Keys menu item
    - Added getRadioVolume function in order to properly determine comm radio volume. Some aircrafts use "volume-selected" property (such as Cessna 172p) whereas others use "volume". The function evaluate both properties and determine volume accordingly.
    - Disable all ATC operations in case instant replay is active
    - Added current flight level request button
    - Remapped flight level request keys to ctrl+shift+[4|5|6] and CTR request to ctrl+0
    - When the aircraft is not flying over an airport area, dialog shows Altitude, AGL, Heading and Speed

For a full description and instructions on how to install the addon, please refer to the Readme file or the first message of this thread.

As usual, your valuable support, feedback, suggestions and comments are always welcome.

Enjoy Flightgear and RedGriffin ATC!
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Re: Red Griffin ATC - Speaking ATC addon for Flightgear

Postby RedGriffin » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:39 pm

I am very glad to announce I have released Red Griffin ATC 1.0.0 stable, 21 March 2020.

You can download the latest version, as usual, from the sourceforge repository.
You are invited to test it and report your feedback and suggestions.

This is the changelog for version 1.0.0 - 21 March 2020

    - Production/stable release
    - When the aircraft is in approach or ILS mode, dialog shows course and distance to pattern and final points
    - Added button for aborting/cancelling approach, ILS and landing requests
    - Flight Level buttons and Cancel approach/landing button are shown according to aircraft status

For a full description and instructions on how to install the addon, please refer to the Readme file or the first message of this thread.

I have also published a tutorial video on how to use and operate Red Griffin ATC, including quick links to any specific operation.

Demonstration Flight and Tutorial



Initial operations and setup: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=110
Take-off: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=313
Terrain alert: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=513
Flight information: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=660
Altitude check: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=708 - https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=1470
Leaving and entering CTR: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=848 - https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=1905 - https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=2105
CTR assigning a new altitude: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=957 - https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=1945
Flight level change: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=1023 - https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=1190 - https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=1505
Flying over an airport area: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=1278
Request ILS procedure: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=2380 - https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=2460
Abort ILS procedure: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=2450
ILS established: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=2865
Abort landing: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=2910
Request visual approach: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=2950
Reaching pattern point: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=3210
Reaching final approach point: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=3305
Landing: https://youtu.be/ZOxDTGj9UnQ?t=3413

As usual, your valuable support, feedback, suggestions and comments are always welcome.

Enjoy Flightgear and RedGriffin ATC!
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Re: Red Griffin ATC - Speaking ATC addon for Flightgear

Postby RobAndrew » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:54 am

Wow, looks real good! A quick few questions: When getting ILS Information, should the nav frequency be given at all for the localizer? Obviously it makes sense that you would already have it, but surely there is a scenario where one may need to ask for such a frequency? Or should you just have to rely on a map or chart? Secondly, I think i've already mentioned this (And I don't think it's being implemented yet) Was there any chance of it keeping you clear of AI traffic? giving you altitudes and headings that wouldn't put you on collision course with AI? I can understand this could be very difficult. And thirdly, was there any plans on implementing pattern work? Each Airport may have its own pattern to enter or leave the landing zone. Of course getting hold of these and implementing is understandably tedious. I was just curious to se if it had been considered.
Either way it looks like great progress and i'm really exited to use it and see it progress. This has truly given me a sense of inspiration to develop the sim further along with everyone else. You're doing a great job and i'd love to see more from you!
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Re: Red Griffin ATC - Speaking ATC addon for Flightgear

Postby RedGriffin » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:29 pm

RobAndrew wrote in Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:54 am:Wow, looks real good!

Hi there! Thank you for your appreciation!

RobAndrew wrote in Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:54 am:A quick few questions: When getting ILS Information, should the nav frequency be given at all for the localizer? Obviously it makes sense that you would already have it, but surely there is a scenario where one may need to ask for such a frequency? Or should you just have to rely on a map or chart?

I asked myself this so many times and I do not know whether ATC should provide ILS frequency or not. As far as I can tell, according to all the manuals and documentation I read about ATC phraseology, I have never found a case in which ILS frequency is provided by ATC, so I tried to comply to that. Like I said, I do not have a real pilot license, so I have no experience in real ATC procedures.
Technically speaking, ILS frequency is an information available in FlightGear data and properties, so it can be easily determined according to any airport and runway. This means it would be super easy to implement such a function, that is ATC instructing the pilot about ILS frequency.
I am open to any idea and suggestion about this subject , as well as feedback from any experienced pilot who certainly know more about this than I could possibly know.
In case this information should be provided by the ATC, how the corresponding phraseology should be?

RobAndrew wrote in Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:54 am:Secondly, I think i've already mentioned this (And I don't think it's being implemented yet) Was there any chance of it keeping you clear of AI traffic? giving you altitudes and headings that wouldn't put you on collision course with AI? I can understand this could be very difficult.

Yes, I am planning to implement AI traffic in the next stable release. As far as I can tell, FlightGear properties provide information about AI and multiplayer traffic, so I think it is quite easy to consider those information and have the ATC to work accordingly. It is a planned feature.

RobAndrew wrote in Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:54 am:And thirdly, was there any plans on implementing pattern work? Each Airport may have its own pattern to enter or leave the landing zone. Of course getting hold of these and implementing is understandably tedious. I was just curious to se if it had been considered.

I have no idea about this. I do not know whether FlightGear provides such information about airports. In case there is a way to get such information and data, I would be more than happy to implement this and it would be extremely interesting.
Maybe we can consider a sort of "standard procedure" to be used for all airports? Or at least to have a set of "standard pattern procedures" to be used "at random" in order to make the experience "relatively real"?

RobAndrew wrote in Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:54 am:Either way it looks like great progress and i'm really exited to use it and see it progress. This has truly given me a sense of inspiration to develop the sim further along with everyone else. You're doing a great job and i'd love to see more from you!

Thank you for your appreciation, feedback and ideas. I am very glad to know you are enjoying my Red Griffin ATC and, moreover, it has given you a sense of inspiration to the development of this beautiful flight simulator.
Developing Red Griffin ATC meant to me many things. First of all, it is an addon I really missed and wanted to have in FlightGear. Now I cannot even think about using FlightGear without my addon. I believe it gives FlightGear a new "realistic dimension" and I am pretty happy with the development so far. And, of course, this is also thanks to the many ideas, suggestions and feedback you all gave me in this thread. Every and each feedback has been a tremendous help and encouragement to develop Red Griffin ATC the way it is now.
Secondly, I am a FlightGear user since the very first release (1997) and I spent countless hours in using this flight simulator and enjoyed tremendously the progress of the development efforts. It is a good software and my addon is my "little" contribution to this project and a way to express gratitude to all the FlightGear community. Being a professional software designer/developer for more than 35 years now, I understand the efforts and commitment the whole team put in developing FlightGear and, for this reason, I wanted to "do my part", even though, a very little one. I am very happy to read this addon gave you the inspiration and will to contribute to the development. That's great! :-)
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