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Re: Help tag aircraft

Postby Isaak » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:11 am

Some remarks:
- F4U, Fairey Gannet, F9F...: thess planes have folding wings for carrier parking. I added variable-geometry, but maybe that's not the right Aircraft feature? Should there be a tag for folding wings?
- F4U: Vought was not in the manufacturer list. Please add it or remove the tag from the aircraft
- F6F-hellcat: Grumman was not in the manufacturer list.
- F7F tigercat: Grumman
- I miss a 1940s tag for aircraft manufactured near/after the end of ww2. I gave them the ww2 tag, but think this is not fully right.
- C119: missing Fairchild manufacturer
- fairey manufacturer (later westland helicopters?) missing
- dassault manufacturer missing
- eras: missing 2010s


The tags:
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F4U/f4u-set.xml
    <tags>
      <tag>Vought</tag>
      <tag>ww2</tag>
      <tag>tail-dragger</tag>
      <tag>carrier-hook</tag>
      <tag>variable-geometry</tag>
      <tag>fighter</tag>
      <tag>single-engine</tag>
      <tag>piston</tag>
      <tag>retractable-gear</tag>
    </tags>

F6F-Hellcat/f6f-set.xml
    <tags>
      <tag>Grumann</tag>
      <tag>ww2</tag>
      <tag>fighter</tag>
      <tag>tail-dragger</tag>
      <tag>retractable-gear</tag>
      <tag>1-engine</tag>
      <tag>piston</tag>
      <tag>combat</tag>
    </tags>

F7F-Tigercat/f7f-set.xml
    <tags>
      <tag>Grumman</tag>
      <tag>ww2</tag>
      <tag>1950s</tag>
      <tag>retractable-gear</tag>
      <tag>2-engine</tag>
      <tag>piston</tag>
    </tags>

F80C/F80C-set.xml
    <tags>
      <tag>fighter</tag>
      <tag>lockheed</tag>
      <tag>ww2</tag>
      <tag>1950s</tag>
      <tag>1960s</tag>
      <tag>retractable-gear</tag>
      <tag>1-engine</tag>
      <tag>jet</tag>
    </tags>

F9F-Panther/f9f-set.xml
    <tags>
      <tag>fighter</tag>
      <tag>grumman</tag>
      <tag>ww2</tag>
      <tag>1950s</tag>
      <tag>1960s</tag>
      <tag>retractable-gear</tag>
      <tag>carrier-hook</tag>
      <tag>variable-geometry</tag>
      <tag>1-engine</tag>
      <tag>jet</tag>
    </tags>

Fairchild-C119/c119-set.xml
    <tags>
      <tag>cargo</tag>
      <tag>fairchild</tag>
      <tag>ww2</tag>
      <tag>1950s</tag>
      <tag>retractable-gear</tag>
      <tag>2-engine</tag>
      <tag>radial</tag>
    </tags>

Fairchild-Metroliner/metroliner-set.xml
    <tags>
      <tag>passenger</tag>
      <tag>fairchild</tag>
      <tag>1960s</tag>
      <tag>1970s</tag>
      <tag>1980s</tag>
      <tag>1990s</tag>
      <tag>retractable-gear</tag>
      <tag>pressurised</tag>
      <tag>2-engine</tag>
      <tag>turboprop</tag>
    </tags>

Fairey-Gannet/gannet-yasim-cnf.xml
    <tags>
      <tag>fighter</tag>
      <tag>fairey</tag>
      <tag>1950s</tag>
      <tag>1960s</tag>
      <tag>1970s</tag>
      <tag>retractable-gear</tag>
      <tag>carrier-hook</tag>
      <tag>variable-geometry</tag>
      <tag>2-engine</tag>
      <tag>turboprop</tag>
    </tags>

Falcon-50/falcon50-set.xml
    <tags>
      <tag>bizjet</tag>
      <tag>dassault</tag>
      <tag>1980s</tag>
      <tag>1990s</tag>
      <tag>2000s</tag>
      <tag>2010s</tag>
      <tag>ifr</tag>
      <tag>retractable-gear</tag>
      <tag>3-engine</tag>
      <tag>jet</tag>
    </tags>

Farman-III/Farman-III-set.xml
    <tags>
      <tag>ga</tag>
      <tag>early-pioneers</tag>
      <tag>prototype</tag>
      <tag>fixed-gear</tag>
      <tag>biplane</tag>
      <tag>tail-dragger</tag>
      <tag>1-engine</tag>
      <tag>piston</tag>
    </tags>

Farman-IV/farman-IV-yasim-cnf.xml
    <tags>
      <tag>ga</tag>
      <tag>1910s</tag>
      <tag>fixed-gear</tag>
      <tag>biplane</tag>
      <tag>tail-dragger</tag>
      <tag>1-engine</tag>
      <tag>piston</tag>
    </tags>
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Re: Help tag aircraft

Postby erik » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:35 am

I now have the script ready to add the missing tags automatically. Which adds an extra
<tag>auto-generated</tag>

I think it would be best to run it just prior to the next release so tags can be added by hand prior to that (the script checks if the tags are already specified and ignores it if it has ) and the script will fill in the rest.

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Re: Help tag aircraft

Postby Johan G » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:20 pm

BEL ISAAK wrote in Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:11 am:- F4U, Fairey Gannet, F9F...: thess planes have folding wings for carrier parking. I added variable-geometry, but maybe that's not the right Aircraft feature? Should there be a tag for folding wings?

I think there is a need for a separate tag for folding wings. Usually variable geometry is associated with "swing-wing" aircraft, like for example the F-14, F-111, B-1B and Tu-160.

That said I think the XB-70 would be variable geometry rather than folding wings. ;) I guess in essence variable geometry aircraft can change their geometry while in flight.
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Re: Help tag aircraft

Postby Isaak » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:07 am

Johan G wrote in Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:20 pm:I guess in essence variable geometry aircraft can change their geometry while in flight.


I was thinking the same. Stuart, is it possible to add the correct tag on the wiki so everyone uses the same? I guess folding-wing or the like might suffice.
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Re: Help tag aircraft

Postby pommesschranke » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:02 pm

I wrote a little script to translate the tags for 281 aircraft from helija's hangar web site.
I uploaded the output here:

http://media.lug-marl.de/flightgear/aircraft-tags.tgz

here's the script:
https://github.com/mherweg/d-laser-fgto ... etadata.py

here are all tags that were used:


tags_en = ['multi-engine','prop','seaplane','monoplane','giant','United States','single engine','ultralight', 'biplane', 'France','twin engine', 'military','canard','prototype','Germany' , 'triple engine', 'quad engine', 'WW1', 'jet' , 'WW2', 'racer' , 'UK' , 'helicopter', 'convertable', 'Sweden' ,'fictional', 'other', 'Italy', 'Ukraine', 'Russia', 'dual control', 'Czech Republic', 'Japan' , 'Canada', 'Belgium', 'airliner', 'car', 'Glider', 'Austria', 'Australia', 'spacecraft', 'Switzerland', 'Brazil']
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Re: Help tag aircraft

Postby Thorsten » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:43 am

I wrote a little script to translate the tags for 281 aircraft from helija's hangar web site.


Please not that this doesn't really help. Only tags listed in here

https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/fg ... logTags.py

will be valid and used - even 'Glider' for instance won't be recognized because the valid tag is 'glider'. 'giant' is not a recognized tag at all.

The aim is not to add any sort of tags to aircraft people think appropriate, the aim is to select tags from the list of valid tags that apply to the aircraft.
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Re: Help tag aircraft

Postby stuart » Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:00 pm

@BEL ISAAK: Thanks for your work. I will get them added shortly.

I will also add "wing-fold" as a tag, along with "1910s", "1940s", "2010s", "grumman", "vought", "fairchild", "fairey", "dassault"

Note that all tags should be lower case for consistency. Yes, even proper nouns such as aircraft manufacturers.

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Re: Help tag aircraft

Postby stuart » Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:01 pm

@BEL ISAAK. I've added tags for the F4U, F80C and Farman-III. I'll contact Emmanuel Barranger to check whether he is intending to tag his hangar.

Thanks again,

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Re: Help tag aircraft

Postby Isaak » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:19 am

Thanks a lot, I 'll do some more this week :)
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Re: Help tag aircraft

Postby cgdae » Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:20 pm

Here are some tags for the de Havilland Mosquito; hope they are in the right format.
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mosquito/mosquito-common.xml
<sim>
    <description>de Havilland Mosquito</description>
    <long-description>The de Havilland DH.98 Mosquito is a British multi-role combat aircraft with a two-man crew which served during and after the Second World War</long-description>
    <tags>
        <tag>1940s</tag>
        <tag>bomber</tag>
        <tag>castering</tag>
        <tag>fighter</tag>
        <tag>ga</tag>
        <tag>high-wing</tag>
        <tag>mosquito-yasim</tag>
        <tag>piston</tag>
        <tag>retractable-gear</tag>
        <tag>twin-engine</tag>
        <tag>ww2</tag>
    </tags>
    <author>Ludovic Brenta, Detlef Faber.</author>
</sim>
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Re: Help tag aircraft

Postby Thorsten » Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:21 am

No valid tags are

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       <tag>castering</tag>
        <tag>mosquito-yasim</tag>


Please refer to the list of valid tags and use only what's in the list

https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/fg ... logTags.py
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Re: Help tag aircraft

Postby cgdae » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:09 am

Ah, sorry, i was using the tags from the wiki page.

Here's an update which hopefully uses only official tags.

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mosquito/mosquito-common.xml
<sim>
    <description>de Havilland Mosquito</description>
    <long-description>The de Havilland DH.98 Mosquito is a British multi-role combat aircraft with a two-man crew which served during and after the Second World War</long-description>
    <tags>
        <tag>bomber</tag>
        <tag>fighter</tag>
        <tag>1940s</tag>
        <tag>ww2</tag>
        <tag>high-wing</tag>
        <tag>retractable-gear</tag>
        <tag>tail-dragger</tag>
        <tag>piston</tag>
        <tag>twin-engine</tag>
        <tag>variable-pitch</tag>
    </tags>
    <author>Ludovic Brenta, Detlef Faber.</author>
</sim>
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Re: Help tag aircraft

Postby Johan G » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:53 pm

Thorsten wrote in Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:21 am:Please refer to the list of valid tags and use only what's in the list

https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/fg ... logTags.py

cgdae wrote in Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:09 am:Ah, sorry, i was using the tags from the wiki page.

In that case the FlightGear wiki article should probably be updated or the tags there be removed and a link be added to the official list. Otherwise more people will make the same mistake. :wink: (I would do this myself if I could make time for it, but I have had a bit less time to spare lately.)
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Re: Help tag aircraft

Postby stuart » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:08 pm

@cgdae: Thanks very much for the contribution. I've applied those tags, with the exception of "high-wing", as the Mosquito is technically a mid-wing aircraft.
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Re: Help tag aircraft

Postby cgdae » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:15 pm

Ah yes, sorry, mosquito is certainly mid-wing.

Here are some tags for Harrier-GR1 and Harrier-GR3. The only difference is that i've marked the GR3 with <tag>refuel</tag>.

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Harrier-GR1/Harrier-GR1-set.xml
<sim>
    <description>Hawker Siddeley Harrier</description>
    <long-description>The Hawker Siddeley Harrier, developed in the 1960s, was the first of the Harrier Jump Jet series of aircraft. It was the first operational close-support and reconnaissance fighter aircraft with vertical/short takeoff and landing (V/STOL) capabilities and the only truly successful V/STOL design of the many that arose in that era</long-description>
    <tags>
        <tag></tag>
        <tag>fighter</tag>
        <tag>1960s</tag>
        <tag>high-wing</tag>
        <tag>retractable-gear</tag>
        <tag>stol</tag>
        <tag>vtol</tag>
        <tag>jet</tag>
        <tag>single-engine</tag>
    </tags>
    <author>Petar Jedvaj, Andy Ross, Gary Brown, StuartC, Raptor and Brendan Black</author>
</sim>


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Harrier-GR3/Harrier-GR3-set.xml
<sim>
    <description>Hawker Siddeley Harrier</description>
    <long-description>The Hawker Siddeley Harrier, developed in the 1960s, was the first of the Harrier Jump Jet series of aircraft. It was the first operational close-support and reconnaissance fighter aircraft with vertical/short takeoff and landing (V/STOL) capabilities and the only truly successful V/STOL design of the many that arose in that era</long-description>
    <tags>
        <tag></tag>
        <tag>fighter</tag>
        <tag>1960s</tag>
        <tag>high-wing</tag>
        <tag>retractable-gear</tag>
        <tag>stol</tag>
        <tag>vtol</tag>
        <tag>refuel</tag>
        <tag>jet</tag>
        <tag>single-engine</tag>
    </tags>
    <author>Petar Jedvaj, Andy Ross, Gary Brown, StuartC, Raptor and Brendan Black</author>
</sim>
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