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Re: List of Improved Airports in FlightGear

Postby martin » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:15 pm

Farmboy wrote:But in the meantime - JFK tower is listed in apt.dat at 0' elevation. Could you change the apt.dat file to show tower viewpoint at 250' so users will have a more accurate viewpoint?


Done - in fact over a quater of all tower viewpoints is located at sea level ....

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Re: List of Improved Airports in FlightGear

Postby Farmboy » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:45 pm

martin wrote:Done - in fact over a quater of all tower viewpoints is located at sea level ....

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Ouch.

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Re: List of Improved Airports in FlightGear

Postby martin » Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:23 pm

Farmboy wrote:Could you change the apt.dat file to show tower viewpoint at 250' so users will have a more accurate viewpoint?


BTW, whenever possible, please write stuff like this into an EMail, since communicating via the forum is burning a huge lot of (my) time compared to usual EMail,

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Re: List of Improved Airports in FlightGear

Postby Farmboy » Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:41 pm

martin wrote:
The complete list ('200808' plus "our" updates) is available here:

http://mapserver.flightgear.org/apt.dat.gz

Note that there is at least one syntax error in the file which I'm currently trying to find - maybe a buggy submission which slipped through my initial checks ....

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It appears that the new apt.dat has a few less airports than the previous. If anyone has trouble after installing this file you will need to edit any references to the following airports out of their nav.dat file.
EDXX
KFCA
KONT
KUFO
LSGS
LSZR
LYPR
UKFF
LFRU

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Re: List of Improved Airports in FlightGear

Postby martin » Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:01 pm

martin wrote:Apparently someone noticed that TFFJ in Robin's past releases was misplaced, so they moved the runway over to the correct location - but forgot to move the taxiways/apron accordingly. Here's a copy of this setup, would someone please put the taxiways and apron at their correct location ?


To be honest, I was hoping that one of the 'newbies' would take the chance of jumping into the waters of airfield layouting - but this didn't happen. Fortunately Gijs actually did it. Together with the nice land cover we have there this will make one of the really interesting airfields:

http://mapserver.flightgear.org/map/?lon=-62.84366&lat=17.90441&zoom=15&layers=B000000TFFFFFFFFTFFF

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Re: List of Improved Airports in FlightGear

Postby SkyWlf77 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:36 pm

martin wrote:To be honest, I was hoping that one of the 'newbies' would take the chance of jumping into the waters of airfield layouting


What kind of learning curve is there when laying out the runways for particular airports? I would assume that it's not quite as difficult as modeling the actual aircraft and scenery, but not sure how problematic it is to make sure the runways are just above the terrain to show up, etc. This might be something I'd be interested in....

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Re: List of Improved Airports in FlightGear

Postby Farmboy » Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:40 pm

martin wrote:
martin wrote:Apparently someone noticed that TFFJ in Robin's past releases was misplaced, so they moved the runway over to the correct location - but forgot to move the taxiways/apron accordingly. Here's a copy of this setup, would someone please put the taxiways and apron at their correct location ?


To be honest, I was hoping that one of the 'newbies' would take the chance of jumping into the waters of airfield layouting - but this didn't happen. Fortunately Gijs actually did it. Together with the nice land cover we have there this will make one of the really interesting airfields:

http://mapserver.flightgear.org/map/?lon=-62.84366&lat=17.90441&zoom=15&layers=B000000TFFFFFFFFTFFF

Cheers, Martin.


Martin, I missed that post. If you need something like that drawn in TaxiDraw shoot me an email and I'll do my best to get it done.
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Re: List of Improved Airports in FlightGear

Postby statto » Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:50 pm

SkyWlf77 wrote:
martin wrote:To be honest, I was hoping that one of the 'newbies' would take the chance of jumping into the waters of airfield layouting


What kind of learning curve is there when laying out the runways for particular airports? I would assume that it's not quite as difficult as modeling the actual aircraft and scenery, but not sure how problematic it is to make sure the runways are just above the terrain to show up, etc. This might be something I'd be interested in....

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Fairly easy - you need to download TaxiDraw. Most of the runways are okay, but whenever you see "generic" taxiways - IE a parallel taxiway with three exit points to the runway (both ends and one right in the middle) - we could really use this data,

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Re: List of Improved Airports in FlightGear

Postby martin » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:02 pm

Farmboy wrote:
martin wrote:To be honest, I was hoping that one of the 'newbies' would take the chance of jumping into the waters of airfield layouting - [...]


Martin, I missed that post. If you need something like that drawn in TaxiDraw shoot me an email and I'll do my best to get it done.


Nope - I don't count you as being a 'newbie' ;-)

Well, the plan was to attract _new_ contributors - and once they're familiar with creating/improving airfield layouts, then John and Christian are going to guide them into improving land cover :-)

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Re: List of Improved Airports in FlightGear

Postby scighera » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:15 pm

martin wrote:To those who have been submitting an improved airfield layout ('.dat-file'): Please verify against our web map service to see if the result looks reasonable (as expected) to you. Visit:
......
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Hi Martin ... sorry for being late in answering ... but I just become GRANDFATHER !!!!

By the way, the revised layouts of:
- LIME (Bergamo Orio al Serio)
- LILV (Valbrembo)

show up correctly in http://mapserver.flightgear.org/

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Re: List of Improved Airports in FlightGear

Postby martin » Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:27 am

scighera wrote:Hi Martin ... sorry for being late in answering ... but I just become GRANDFATHER !!!!


Oooops .... Congratulations, most prominently to the mother !

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Re: List of Improved Airports in FlightGear

Postby martin » Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:46 pm

martin wrote:I've put together a _very_ simple list of airfields of which we already have an improved layout:

http://mapserver.flightgear.org/Apt.Dat.txt



BWT, it doesn't hurt if you check wether the code of your submission(s) appears on this list - maybe a few hours after I confirmed inclusion,

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Re: List of Improved Airports in FlightGear

Postby kyokoyama » Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:02 pm

scighera wrote:
martin wrote:To those who have been submitting an improved airfield layout ('.dat-file'): Please verify against our web map service to see if the result looks reasonable (as expected) to you. Visit:
......
Martin.


Hi Martin ... sorry for being late in answering ... but I just become GRANDFATHER !!!!

By the way, the revised layouts of:
- LIME (Bergamo Orio al Serio)
- LILV (Valbrembo)

show up correctly in http://mapserver.flightgear.org/

Ciao, Paolo

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Re: List of Improved Airports in FlightGear

Postby D-79 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:57 am

As of June 2010, LOWI is improved. Note also the new EGKK scenery.

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Re: List of Improved Airports in FlightGear

Postby skyop » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:58 pm

Don't forget KBFL and soon KLAX. :P
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