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Re: TDZ precision markings

Postby legoboyvdlp » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:13 pm

Well - you could try the airport chart published by NATS - which I also linked in this topic?

http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/pamsligh ... GJJ_2-1_en
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Re: TDZ precision markings

Postby SurferTim » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:14 pm

legoboyvdlp wrote in Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:13 pm:Well - you could try the airport chart published by NATS - which I also linked in this topic?

http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/pamsligh ... GJJ_2-1_en

I get:
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Re: TDZ precision markings

Postby legoboyvdlp » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:23 pm

Hmm - ok, I will upload the PDF to a Dropbox for you.
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Re: TDZ precision markings

Postby Alant » Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:58 pm

You can get it by registering at https://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/fwf-ead ... .home.page. It asks for a pilots license number, but if you scroll down to license type "----" this is bypassed.
Once logged in, go to "Prepare my Flight" and select airfield EGJJ.
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Re: TDZ precision markings

Postby legoboyvdlp » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:07 pm

Here we go - I think that was my fault, I was copying the wrong link:
http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/eadbasic ... -07-18.pdf

Sorry about that!
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Re: TDZ precision markings

Postby SurferTim » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:20 pm

That is the airport map I used.
rwy08 threshold 271' ------------------------ highest elev 277' -------------- rwy26 threshold 272'
Where is the dip?
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Re: TDZ precision markings

Postby legoboyvdlp » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:32 pm

The map I see is this:

271 -- 274 -- 277 - 272

This might help to see it:

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Re: TDZ precision markings

Postby SurferTim » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:38 pm

OK, show me a pic of your aircraft on approach to the new graded runway in your FG sim.

Edit: I gotta ask. The airport map and data shows rwy08/26, and the runway there (and Google Earth) shows rwy09/27. ??

My bulldozing should be pretty close to that already. I want to see if I have that rise in the correct location on the runway. I may need to steepen up the rwy26 climb to the top of the rise. The rwy08 side of the rise may be fine.
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Re: TDZ precision markings

Postby wkitty42 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:01 pm

SurferTim wrote in Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:14 pm:I get:
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You don't have permission to access /pamslight/pdf/4e415453/EG/C/EN/Charts/AD/EG_AD_2_EGJJ_2-1_en on this server.

same here.., the site requires an account at basic or pro level...
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"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
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Re: TDZ precision markings

Postby wkitty42 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:02 pm

legoboyvdlp wrote in Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:07 pm:Here we go - I think that was my fault, I was copying the wrong link:
http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/eadbasic ... -07-18.pdf

Sorry about that!

yes, that one works :)
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"Why not?" said Gurder.
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Re: TDZ precision markings

Postby legoboyvdlp » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:27 am

I can't start FlightGear right now, but when I fix it I'll let you know ;)

I just built with your HGT file - I'll upload it to GitHub so you can try it. Once it pushes, will be at https://github.com/legoboyvdlp/Jersey-fg-CustomScenery
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Re: TDZ precision markings

Postby SurferTim » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:30 am

OK, I'll see how it turned out. Good luck with your FG start.

I wish somebody would port the TerraGear program to Ubuntu.
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Re: TDZ precision markings

Postby D-ECHO » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:32 am

Scenery looks nice, but elevation is all 0 for the whole island
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Re: TDZ precision markings

Postby SurferTim » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:37 am

D-ECHO wrote in Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:32 am:Scenery looks nice, but elevation is all 0 for the whole island

Something must have gone wrong in the build. Every app I have shows the hgt file is correct.
I'll take a guess that TerraGear did not find the new N49W003.hgt file.

EDIT: The scenery elevation isn't all 0's here. It took the "flat" grading I did, but the new N49W003.hgt was apparently not used.
You need to download the new N49W003.hgt file. It has the new gradients that has the rise in the runway.
http://www.prolectron.com/flightgear/N49W003.hgt

Looks like I got the airport almost exactly correct in lat/long. Now if the runway had the rise. The cliff on the west end of the runway looks great! It needs about 70 meters more runway level at that end, but I'll take care of that later when I do the runway gradient edit. The new N49W003.hgt should put the rise in the correct place.
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Re: TDZ precision markings

Postby legoboyvdlp » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:29 am

Ok - its looking nice now - thanks!
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If you could make two rises in the runway such as here it would be even better:
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One thing - I still need to know why the runway has no touchdown zone markings.
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