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Nighttextures / Textranslate

Postby henrik_k » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:50 am

Dear All, making my first strides at adding textured objects, I am working on the Alpha Rotex building, part of the new Gateway Gardens right next to Frankfurt airport.
I followed the instructions in the howto http://wiki.flightgear.org/Howto:Texture_a_building#Night_Textures.
Day textures work fine, switch to night textures as well, so the textranslate animation is properly triggered, but:

My problem: no matter what axis values I modify in the textranslate animation of the xml, the texture shifts along the x axis. I need it to shift along the y-axis, though, as my night texture is sitting on top of the texture file (like in the howto). It even shifts when all axis are set to "0"! However, I am certain that the textranslate animation is properly executed as it works fine as soon as I "comment out" (<!-- ... -->) the respective section of the xml.

It would be great if someone could point me in the right direction. Alternatively, I would be interested if the texture swap animation (having the night/day textures in separate files) would be an option for static objects (buildings) and if someone could give me example code, as I was unable to find it.

Thanks in advance!

The xml:
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<?xml version="1.0"?>

<PropertyList>

 <path>alpha_rotex1.ac</path>
 <animation>
   <type>range</type>
   <min-m>0</min-m>
   <max-m>25000</max-m>
 </animation>

 <animation>
   <type>textranslate</type>
   <object-name>alpha_rotex1</object-name>
   <property>/sim/time/sun-angle-rad</property>
   <step> 1.57 </step>
   <factor>0.318471338</factor>
   <center>
      <x-m> 0 </x-m>
      <y-m> 0 </y-m>
      <z-m> 0 </z-m>
   </center>
   <axis>
      <x>0</x>
      <y>-1</y>
      <z>0</z>
   </axis>
</animation>

<animation>
   <type>material</type>
   <object-name>alpha_rotex1</object-name>
   <condition>
      <greater-than>      
         <property>/sim/time/sun-angle-rad</property>
         <value>1.57</value>
      </greater-than>
   </condition>
   <emission>   
      <red>0.3</red>   
      <green>0.3</green>   
      <blue>0.3</blue>
   </emission>
</animation>

</PropertyList>


The ac file:
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AC3Db
MATERIAL "DefaultWhite" rgb 1.0000 1.0000 1.0000  amb 0.2000 0.2000 0.2000  emis 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000  spec 0.5000 0.5000 0.5000  shi 10 trans 0.0000
MATERIAL "alpha rotex 1" rgb 0.8000 0.8000 0.8000  amb 1.0000 1.0000 1.0000  emis 1.0000 1.0000 1.0000  spec 0.5000 0.5000 0.5000  shi 12 trans 0.0000
OBJECT world
kids 1
OBJECT poly
name "alpha_rotex1"
data 12
alpha_rotex1
loc -6.0618038 69.5146103 11.8372307
texture "alpha_rotex1.png"
texrep 1 1
crease 35.0
numvert 30
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-72.3317337 -68.8040085 -9.5324593
-77.9727097 -68.8040085 7.5800114
-80.1423874 -68.8040085 1.6364822
-78.1615448 -68.8040085 -4.3726177
-72.3317337 85.7091751 -9.5324593
-71.9828033 85.7091751 12.5531158
-78.1615448 85.7091751 -4.3726177
-80.1423874 85.7091751 1.6364822
-77.9727097 85.7091751 7.5800114
46.6101723 -68.8040085 56.1269951
27.7355766 -68.8040085 67.6006165
45.3505173 -68.8040085 63.8097000
41.3212051 -68.8040085 68.6879807
35.1356583 -68.8040085 70.0191803
27.7355766 85.7091751 67.6006165
46.6101723 85.7091751 56.1269951
35.1356583 85.7091751 70.0191803
41.3212051 85.7091751 68.6879807
45.3505173 85.7091751 63.8097000
24.0158234 -68.8040085 -66.7628403
43.6967926 -68.8040085 -55.8983612
31.3703175 -68.8040085 -69.4145050
37.6931000 -68.8040085 -68.2809372
42.0215797 -68.8040085 -63.5346947
43.6967926 85.7091751 -55.8983612
24.0158234 85.7091751 -66.7628403
42.0215797 85.7091751 -63.5346947
37.6931000 85.7091751 -68.2809372
31.3703175 85.7091751 -69.4145050
numsurf 17
SURF 0X0
mat 1
refs 15
25 0.885157 0.375265
27 0.874924 0.384686
28 0.865033 0.389855
29 0.853188 0.385663
26 0.842955 0.375754
5 0.748550 0.288675
7 0.738235 0.278874
8 0.735518 0.271118
9 0.740970 0.267553
6 0.760269 0.267174
15 0.973214 0.267174
17 0.986165 0.267553
18 0.991618 0.272094
19 0.988412 0.279362
16 0.981027 0.286721
SURF 0X0
mat 1
refs 15
20 0.000000 0.000000
22 0.000000 0.000000
23 0.000000 0.000000
24 0.000000 0.000000
21 0.000000 0.000000
10 0.000000 0.000000
12 0.000000 0.000000
13 0.000000 0.000000
14 0.000000 0.000000
11 0.000000 0.000000
0 0.000000 0.000000
2 0.000000 0.000000
3 0.000000 0.000000
4 0.000000 0.000000
1 0.000000 0.000000
SURF 0X0
mat 1
refs 4
1 0.668725 -0.000561
5 0.668726 0.388999
26 0.057281 0.388999
20 0.057281 -0.000560
SURF 0X0
mat 1
refs 4
21 0.668725 -0.000561
25 0.668726 0.388999
16 0.057281 0.388999
10 0.057281 -0.000560
SURF 0X0
mat 1
refs 4
0 0.057281 -0.000560
6 0.057281 0.388999
9 0.026777 0.388999
2 0.026777 -0.000560
SURF 0X0
mat 1
refs 4
2 0.026777 -0.000560
9 0.026777 0.388999
8 0.001987 0.388999
3 0.001987 -0.000560
SURF 0X0
mat 1
refs 4
3 0.724272 -0.000561


The texture file:
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During day:
Image

During night:
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Re: Nighttextures / Textranslate

Postby Catalanoic » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:09 pm

i have same the questions, specially night/day textures in separate files
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Re: Nighttextures / Textranslate  

Postby BecOzIcan » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:22 pm

In

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   <axis>
      <x>0</x>
      <y>-1</y>
      <z>0</z>
   </axis>


Your Y value should be 1 and not -1 if the night texture if on the top of the PNG and the Day at the bottom like in the below example with one of my LFPG control towers

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Re: Nighttextures / Textranslate

Postby BecOzIcan » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:46 pm

Catalanoic wrote in Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:09 pm:i have same the questions, specially night/day textures in separate files


Lookup the Lightmap code in \data\AI\Aircraft\77L\main.xml
and
\data\AI\Aircraft\777\Effects\77L-LightMap.eff

Night Texture PNG sits in \Effects folder
Day Texture PNG sits in \Textures folder

See viewtopic.php?f=47&t=30000

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Re: Nighttextures / Textranslate

Postby Catalanoic » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:58 pm

thanks BecOzIcan, i'll try it
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Re: Nighttextures / Textranslate

Postby henrik_k » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:57 pm

Thanks Ian,

I changed the axis setting and it worked, but only once! Then it was back moving the texture into the wrong x direction.
As I had copied the axis setting <y> -1 </y> from the example used in the Howto: "Industrial50x100.ac", I placed this building using UFO and the textures didn't change to night textures properly either!

Long story short: something apparently is not stable / correct with my FlightGear 2018.2.2 on Linux Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver.
Running FlightGear 2018.2.2 under Windows 10 on the same computer, changing textures to night textures works fine (btw: even with the axis setting <y> -1 </y>)!

Anywhere I should report such issue?

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Re: Nighttextures / Textranslate

Postby henrik_k » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:15 pm

Made good progress with using lightmaps also for buildings, calling the effects file *.eff from the xml:
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<effect>
    <inherits-from>building_lightmap_eff</inherits-from>
    <object-name>building</object-name>
</effect>


and using the following code for the effects file:
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<PropertyList>
  <name>building_lightmap_eff</name>
  <inherits-from>/Effects/Building</inherits-from>
  <parameters>
   <normalmap-enabled type="int">0</normalmap-enabled>
    <reflection-enabled type="int">0</reflection-enabled>
    <reflection-dynamic type="int">0</reflection-dynamic>
    <reflect_map-enabled type="int">0</reflect_map-enabled>
    <reflection-correction type="float">0</reflection-correction>
   <lightmap-enabled type="int">
      <use>/environment/lightmap-factor</use>
   </lightmap-enabled>
   
    <texture n="3">
      <image>building_lightmap1.png</image>
    </texture>
  </parameters>
</PropertyList>


Creates indeed much better results than Textranslate!

However, here's the question:
The current upload form for static objects doesn't allow uploading more than one texture file (which I would need to do: (1) texture file plus (2) lightmap) nor the effects file. How could I upload / share static objects with lightmap functionality?
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Re: Nighttextures / Textranslate

Postby Catalanoic » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:43 pm

of course you can upload multiple texture files. maybe 1-2 basic texture with night part (with tranlate function), lightmap texture, etc.but try some numbering and names and keep low to mid resolution in factor of two.
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Re: Nighttextures / Textranslate

Postby henrik_k » Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:39 pm

Hi Catalanoic, are you using the web-form?
https://scenery.flightgear.org/app.php? ... del&a=form

You are correct, it is possible to upload more than one texture file, but how do I upload the effects file (*.eff) required to trigger the shaders with the lightmap?
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Re: Nighttextures / Textranslate

Postby wkitty42 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 4:12 pm

the effects file probably should go in FGData... especially if it is generic and can work with other objects of similar nature to the one you are working on...
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"Why not?" said Gurder.
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Re: Nighttextures / Textranslate

Postby henrik_k » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:13 pm

Thanks, wkitty42, the effects file is not generic, but specific to the static object, as it points to the specific lightmap for the object, see code posted also above:
<texture n="3">
<image>building_lightmap1.png</image>
</texture>

Please excuse my ignorance: if storing the effects fie in FGData is the solution, how do I get it there? The only way of uploading scenery objects that I am aware of is the input form on the scenery website...
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Re: Nighttextures / Textranslate

Postby wkitty42 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:30 am

TBH, after some contemplation, i'm not sure which way would be the better way to go... i'll just shut up and let the scenery guys handle it...
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Re: Nighttextures / Textranslate

Postby Catalanoic » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:47 pm

I think all static object files need to be distributed through TerraSync. But if you think that file will be used for more objects, maybe hundreds or thousands you can upload it to main FGData and then call it throgh XML file. Maybe writing about that functionality to the FG developing mail list you can obtain a core-developer answer or comment. Link to suscribe the list: https://sourceforge.net/projects/flight ... gear-devel
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Re: Nighttextures / Textranslate

Postby Catalanoic » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:29 pm

There is no other way than to use an effect to have single night texture file (lightmap), just like AI aircraft and OSMcity buildings (and the previous random building feature). It may work in these cases but isnt ideal for shared and static objects. Most games have dedicated lightmaps for the objects so i think it can't be hard to code an expression to this feature.
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