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Anyone hear of this?

Postby kylek14 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:29 pm

MIT software solutions?

They're selling flight gear, and apparently saying "This item is copyrighted. Any reproduction, duplication or resale of any kind is strictly prohibited." in the copyright section.

LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-FlightGear-2009 ... 639wt_1019
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Re: Anyone hear of this?

Postby SkyWlf77 » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:25 am

I reported the listing to Ebay as well as 3 additional listings that I found that were identical to the one you linked, but were offered by 3 different seller ID's (all claiming copyright).

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Re: Anyone hear of this?

Postby simbabeat » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:39 am

.................................................... (shoots himself in the foot) Dangit! Is it just me or do you think there is a licensing change in our future? Maybe Creative Commons?
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Re: Anyone hear of this?

Postby anewb » Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:18 am

simbabeat wrote:.................................................... (shoots himself in the foot) Dangit! Is it just me or do you think there is a licensing change in our future? Maybe Creative Commons?
No need to be honest. After-all, it still violates GPL.
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Re: Anyone hear of this?

Postby simbabeat » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:54 pm

Well technically selling FlightGear is not illegal. It is using our screenshots and other stuff that is.
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Re: Anyone hear of this?

Postby AndersG » Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:51 pm

simbabeat wrote:Well technically selling FlightGear is not illegal. It is using our screenshots and other stuff that is.


Distributing FlightGear without complying with the terms of the GNU Public License version 2 (or later) is also a copyright violation.
Proving that a violation has occured can be difficult, though.

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Re: Anyone hear of this?

Postby simbabeat » Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:56 pm

Correct and I don't see us having the money to actually take these people to court....... So maybe a license change would be good for us.
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Re: Anyone hear of this?

Postby kylek14 » Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:21 pm

simbabeat wrote:Correct and I don't see us having the money to actually take these people to court....... So maybe a license change would be good for us.


Here you go, CC license Non Commcercial Attribution.

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/

The deed states "

You are free:

to Share — to copy, distribute and transmit the work
to Remix — to adapt the work

Under the following conditions:

Attribution — You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work).
Noncommercial — You may not use this work for commercial purposes.
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Re: Anyone hear of this?

Postby Tuxklok » Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:21 pm

We don't need a license change..or any other such silly things. Overreact much?
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Re: Anyone hear of this?

Postby simbabeat » Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:42 pm

Maybe a bit much but I'm getting tired of these people selling fgfs.
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Re: Anyone hear of this?

Postby kylek14 » Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:52 pm

Tuxklok wrote:We don't need a license change..or any other such silly things. Overreact much?


It may be overreacting, but everyone is getting fed up with their hard work being sold when they designed it for all to use.
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Re: Anyone hear of this?

Postby simbabeat » Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:57 pm

Yup. I wonder if Flight Pro Sim comes with extra liveries. And if it does, any of mine? Even though I release them GPL and I undertand that someone could take them it just isn't right. Argh!
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Re: Anyone hear of this?

Postby Tuxklok » Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:00 pm

simbabeat wrote:Maybe a bit much but I'm getting tired of these people selling fgfs.

Why? The GPL was chosen with full knowledge that it grants the right to modify, redistribute, use commercially, sale for profit, etc...

kylek14 wrote:
Tuxklok wrote:We don't need a license change..or any other such silly things. Overreact much?


It may be overreacting, but everyone is getting fed up with their hard work being sold when they designed it for all to use.

Who is everyone? If you don't want your work to be redistributed, used commercially, or sold for profit...then don't license it under the GPL.
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Re: Anyone hear of this?

Postby simbabeat » Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:04 pm

Guys I'm not trying to start a fight ok??? Aren't you mad about people selling it though? Even though they can?
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Re: Anyone hear of this?

Postby Tuxklok » Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:09 pm

simbabeat wrote:Guys I'm not trying to start a fight ok??? Aren't you mad about people selling it though? Even though they can?

Why would I be mad? As long as they follow the terms of the gpl they are more than welcome to do so. Distributing work under a license that gives people the right to do something, and then pissing and moaning, calling them thieves, getting angry, etc, etc when they exercise that right makes no sense at all.
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