Dear Hooray
I am certain that you still don't understand what all the noise is about. But it also seems your are tormented by the noise.
>> don't mistake getting "banned" with having access revoked due to technical reasons, such as a demonstrated misunderstanding of SCM concepts
>>Equally, you should take into account that helijah has a certain standing within the French community (to which F-JJTH undoubtedly belongs), so there's clearly some "history" involved, too.
Why do you persist in coming back to helijah? To me its way simpler than that. Helijah had made and maintain 268 out of 485 of the planes hosted in FGAddon. Half of that repository is made for him to maintain his plane. There is not such misunderstanding on his part in how to commit tot he subversion: regardless he was using KDESVN software. You can see some commits of his previous to his revoke. And they were good. Why do we need to care about Helijah and Clement personal history? And who says there should be police enforcement revoking driver licenses over the repository? That was/ and still is/ an unexplainable aggression to Helijah. Curt has been authoring his commits, which is a "technical" solution, but is far from correct. Helijah should have had Un-revocable access to his planes.
In addition, then it came L. Brenta pushing changes suggested by E. Avergne over the K-7. So he not only looses the ability to write over his planes, but he gets to see how other people starts taking "appropriation" over planes he is still maintaining.
>> F-JJTH has made a number of postings and statements that might be considered "bold" by some standards, but you should give him the benefit of the doubt, especially given the obvious fact that English isn't his first language, so some things were maybe not said in a very tactful manner. However, at that time, F-JJTH was largely responsible for handling the migration, so it made sense for him to oversee what was going on.
May you have seen that. Because I had not. Clement English is proper, clear and very correct. I would say polite if I could. The problem is not a language problem, but a problem of understand that he was not to put himself in the role of regulator. And by placing himself in that role he made the essential mistakes: Like limiting Helijah under a "technical" reason that is still unclear to me, but more importantly limiting the addition of a new aircraft: the dash. This situation is ALSO still unsolved. Torsten came with reasons for not inclusion; which I reply for, but never heard a reply back.
>> then again, having your driving license taken away from you by a police officer for passing a stop sign isn't "banning" you, but just "punishing" you for not following rules - simple as that.
Who is to work as a "Motorized Vehicle Authority" here? And why? The role of the administrators should be guarantee a system that ease contributions. Not place themselves in an "authority" role. Executing bans, forbiding or limiting write access, deciding who writes and who doesn't.
>>the "shuttle story" etc
I don't see such misunderstanding. It is clear who had acted aggressively here. And who has abused GPL rights on this whole shuttle affair. At least it is clear to me. Read Michat's reply slowly and do a good concentration effort. Michat hits the nail into the wall, by several on the head hits.
Again, I agree that HerbyW et al Shuttle should be granted official access. Which is very simple. HerbyW is a major improvement over the long present "shuttle" in FGAddon. While Thorsten work is a new Aircraft present in FGAddon: "SpaceShuttle". Both Shuttles are not incompatible, and can reside, and develop concomitantly and independently. And both can be granted "official" inclusion -- whatever "official" here could mean.
>> As for IAHM-COL
Thanks Hooray. I do apologize and repent- if it may- of having written a very personal accusation to Curtis for his being "curt" on his reponses. And for banning me from writting the devel-list. I disagree, profoundly, with that action. But I can see he needs to be in piece of mind that no-one thinks differently. So on his devel list everyone agrees. It's either that, or outcasting. I found, funny, lets say, that they hang around there just to hear their own voices, and their self-praising. But, oh! well, not my business.
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But more importantly,
It is my opinion for all thing previously mentioned, that FGAddon, while remain existing by a unbending defense of people that controls a lot in FG, basically due to ownership of critical infrastructure, and people with senior-ship --- While remain existing, I say, It is clearly a technically unfavorable approach to aircraft development that facilitates unethical treatment of authors (dash, helijah, HerbyW, to mention afew).
In my view, althought the code resides under GPL clauses, there is nothing open about that whole untransparent operation, and it is my opinion that the whole thing is fundamentally biased, unfair, unjust, inappropriate.
I created FGMEMBERS as an inclusive, transparent, and friendly method that decentralizes aircraft development and centralizes distribution. It solves the technical and humanistical failures of the FGAddon approach. And I call now, and before, and will in the future, to aircraft developers to join us. Even those with write access to the Addon, at the moment, to consider the past, know that is a reflection of the future, and make what I'd call a vote of conscience. For the rest of this "batle of words" against our repository and our contribution to FG, is childish, and impolite. As you've said before, we are a community of volunteers, and we do in FG what suits our interest. My interest, is create, and maintain FGMEMBERs and help previous and new aircraft developers to understand, learn, and enjoy the new paradigm.
Best,
IH-COL