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Add Aircraft Wiki to downlaod page?

Postby openflight » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:17 am

Users may want to see aircaft info such as http://wiki.flightgear.org/Cessna_208_Caravan before downloading.
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Re: Add Aircraft Wiki to downlaod page?

Postby openflight » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:10 am

http://wiki.flightgear.org/Aircraft

I guess I will work on populating the above page.
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Link to Table of Aircraft?

Postby openflight » Fri May 04, 2012 6:10 am

Could someone please consider adding a link to 'table of aircraft' to the main page?

Under the following text would be fine:

Home > Download central >



Download Aircraft

The FlightGear base package includes only a few representative aircraft. Download more aircraft here:

Download v2.6 Aircraft
Download v2.4 Aircraft
Download v2.0 Aircraft


For more aircraft see "Table of Aircraft"

Or alternatively at the top of each aircraft download page, eg 2.6

http://www.flightgear.org/download/aircraft-v2-6/
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Re: Link to Table of Aircraft?

Postby Johan G » Fri May 04, 2012 8:58 am

openflight wrote in Fri May 04, 2012 6:10 am:Could someone please consider adding a link to 'table of aircraft' to the main page?

As you are rather active on the wiki I suppose you are referring to http://wiki.flightgear.org/Table_of_models. Is that correct? :wink:
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Re: Link to Table of Aircraft?

Postby Thorsten » Fri May 04, 2012 9:50 am

Could someone please consider adding a link to 'table of aircraft' to the main page?


Stupid question - why? What information is in the table which isn't on the page?
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Re: Link to Table of Aircraft?

Postby Johan G » Fri May 04, 2012 10:10 am

The official download page only contains the GPL licensed aircraft while the wiki page also contain other ones, like e.g. the CC-by-nc* licensed aircraft by David Culp. :wink:

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Re: Link to Table of Aircraft?

Postby Thorsten » Fri May 04, 2012 12:01 pm

I wouldn't consider it in general a good idea to highlight non-GPL development from the main project page. I do see the value in some cases, but admittedly not here.
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Re: Link to Table of Aircraft?

Postby openflight » Mon May 07, 2012 12:49 am

OK, sorry for the stupid question. :roll:


What about linking the image of the aircraft on the Version 2,6 dowload page (which contains only GPLd aircraft) to the Wiki page for the aircraft so the user can see details of the plane before downloading?

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Re: Link to Table of Aircraft?

Postby Thorsten » Mon May 07, 2012 8:12 am

As far as I know, the download page is created automatically by information present in the aircraft's xml declaration. Unless the wiki page is given there, the info would need to be edited in by hand, which really is a bit of a job, especially since aircraft name and wiki page name may not match (for instance, the 747-400 wiki page is called 'Boeing 747-400' while the file is called '747-400-version-date'). So - who is going to spend 10 hours on doing that job?
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Re: Link to Table of Aircraft?

Postby openflight » Tue May 08, 2012 4:22 am

OK, here is the problem. A person new to FG donloads the FG program. At some point in time he looks for additional aircraft.

He navigates to Downloads > Aircraft and arrives at the version 2.6 download page.

http://www.flightgear.org/download/aircraft-v2-6/

Don't you think it would be nice to show him what these aircraft are like in more detail?

Some suggestions:

1) Each aircraft download page has a reference at the top to 'see table of aircraft for additional aircraft, including non GPL aircraft'
2) Download page has a reference to the WIki (I cannot find a link to the wiki outside of table of aircraft)
3) Put a link to GPLed only Table of aircraft on the main page.

Help the user!
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Re: Add Aircraft Wiki to downlaod page?

Postby joelwellwater » Tue May 08, 2012 5:36 am

I am currently new regarding planes, but Cessna 208 Caravan makes me interested and be focus on learning regarding planes.
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Re: Link to Table of Aircraft?

Postby Thorsten » Tue May 08, 2012 6:23 am

Don't you think it would be nice to show him what these aircraft are like in more detail?


The relevant question is not if I consider something nice or useful - I think it would be nice to have every aircraft properly rated, and a link to a properly maintained wiki documentation, and even a proper aircraft manual shipped with it and all aircraft tested to be running with a release binary.

Unfortunately, the relevant question is:

So - who is going to spend 10 hours on doing that job?
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Re: Link to Table of Aircraft?

Postby Gijs » Tue May 08, 2012 8:02 am

The wiki supports redirects (eg "747-400" forwards to "Boeing 747-400"). So when such redirects are made for an aircraft's --aircraft= code, it would be trivial to add links to those (when they exist)...
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Re: Link to Table of Aircraft?

Postby openflight » Tue May 08, 2012 11:18 pm

I am currently new regarding planes, but Cessna 208 Caravan makes me interested and be focus on learning regarding planes


Welcome to Flight Gear

The Caravan is one of the nicest planes on FG. Check the Wiki and find an aircraft you like. The Twin Otter is also very well executed.
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Re: Link to Table of Aircraft?

Postby openflight » Tue May 08, 2012 11:20 pm

So - who is going to spend 10 hours on doing that job?


Well I would like to try. Let's discuss the requirements and the templates. :D
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