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[Update] PZL M18B Dromader

Postby El Flauta » Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:43 pm

It's great to announce the first -and big- update of the aircraft PZL M18B "Dromader"

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The Dromader is a popular AG plane, developed in middle 70's in Polland, wich are capable to make crop dusting and firefighting, carrying chemicals or water in a big frontal hopper.

Aircraft current features:
    - Detailed 3D model & textures
    - Near-complete cockpit (Instruments operational at 90%; switches, valves & handles, operational almost 50%) new!
    - Custom instruments (with some little exceptions, just temporal), based on real ones new!
    - Exterior and interior animations
    - Custom sounds, most taken from real Dromaders new!
    - More realistic FDM
    - Basic weight & load control new!
    - 3 HQ liveries
    - Totally new bottom door, more realistic
    - Cockpit & instrument lights new!
    - Immatriculation
    - Help menu
    - Advisor of VNE and G limits exceed
    - Shaders for GIT: NormalMap & Reflect (*)
    - "Starter" particle systems: water drop, pesticide & motor smoke
    - In-built cropdusting pipes (basic model, hidden for now, but editable in xml)

    (*) Shaders are disabled for FlightGear 1.9 and 2.0. On ViveFg! are two separeted links, for each version.

All people are invited to download and test the aircraft, and write their opinion. We are avid for some feedback and suggestions. :)

The current version is oriented to test aircraft behavior carrying hard water loads, and it's have a basic water-oriented particle system for now. However, users who wants to try their cropdusting may edit the M18B_Dromader.xml file to get it. All instruments, sounds, fuselage texts and more details have been taken from a CONAF (National Forest Corporation, Chile) firefigther Dromader (CC-PZJ).

You can find the model at "Vive FlightGear", the Spain-Latinamerica FlightGear community site. The site is in spanish, but the download button is easy to recognize.

Download Link (January 31, 2011)

FlightGear's Wiki Dromader page.

Here are somescreenshots of the current plane. Click on each one to enlarge them.

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Older pics:

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To do:
    - Fix some engine Tº issues
    - Nasal-based fuel, hydraulic and electrical systems
    - Nasal-based instrumentation, where default property-tree has no items
    - More realistic startup
    - Realistic cropdusting and firefighting systems, nasal-based

Credits:
Pavel "El Flauta" Cueto: 3D model, instruments, textures, sounds, particles and systems.
Fernando Espinosa: FDM, animations and systems

Note: In our documentation, we have official certification sheets, dossiers and brochures, but we don't have the pilot's flight manual of the aircraft. If someone have some info (better if someone have the manual in pdf) please, tell to us. Thanks.
Last edited by El Flauta on Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:51 am, edited 8 times in total.
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Re: PZL-Mielec M18B Dromader

Postby boeing 787-8 » Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:46 pm

WOW :shock: It´s fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Don´t know where we will take all of this, but I assure you it will be fun. (Orville Wright, 1903).

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Re: PZL-Mielec M18B Dromader

Postby pjedvaj » Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:03 pm

Very accurate and nice looking aircraft packed in just 3.8MB! :mrgreen:

Flight and service manuals: http://easa.europa.eu/certification/type-certificates/docs/aircrafts/EASA-TCDS-A.056_PZL_M--18-03-01102008.pdf
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Re: PZL-Mielec M18B Dromader

Postby El Flauta » Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:29 am

Thanks for your words and link. However, we had these specifications before... they was part of owr development. We are searching for the pilots flight manual ;)
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Re: PZL-Mielec M18B Dromader

Postby simbabeat » Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:51 am

Wow! It is wonderful!!!! The crop dusting feature is great! Just crop-dusted downtown nashville!

It definitely needs tire smoke landing was a bit weird, I almost couldn't tell when the tires touched down from an external view.

Seemed very accurate!

Great plane!

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Re: PZL-Mielec M18B Dromader

Postby kyokoyama » Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:27 am

Nice plane!
I flew it, and only found one problem.

It lands on water.

Last time I checked, I don't think that's possible.
Look for "B-BIRD" "N127KY" or "AVA0004" -that's me.

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Re: PZL-Mielec M18B Dromader

Postby redneck » Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:50 am

Sounds like the FDM is jsbsim. It should be noted that unless you have set in the code, something that tells the plane the difference between land, water, hard surface, soft surface, it will always behave as though it has landed on a hard surface.
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Re: PZL-Mielec M18B Dromader

Postby El Flauta » Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:26 am

That is a very useful information! In fact, the FDM is JSBSim.

Now... what are "Soft" and "Hard" surfaces? Maybe it is the reason of the shaking at low speed at ground.
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Re: PZL-Mielec M18B Dromader

Postby Armchair Ace » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:13 am

The aircraft is wonderful, and several other aircraft on your website are wonderful, too! Bravo, Flauta!

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Re: PZL-Mielec M18B Dromader

Postby timjschong » Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:31 am

Looks amazing. Who modelled that?
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Re: PZL-Mielec M18B Dromader

Postby El Flauta » Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:44 pm

Vive FlightGear is a community site founded by NiTuS, where i am like a co-admin in the site, and a moderator in the forums... the site isn't mine :oops: And about the plane, the development team are for now 3 people. 2 from Chile and 1 from Spain. You can see the role of each one in the credits (well... i had the idea, and i am the cordinator of this project, but i can't produce an entire aircraft for myself).

Thanks for you comments. All the team are doing their best efforts.
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Re: PZL-Mielec M18B Dromader

Postby Gijs » Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:50 pm

Very nice team work on this one! Make sure to get it in Git before the middle of this week, so we can showcase it at the FSweekend ;)
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Re: PZL-Mielec M18B Dromader

Postby kyokoyama » Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:54 pm

Speaking of which, what exactly will be in FSweekend for FG?
(also so I can write it in the Wiki page for it)
Look for "B-BIRD" "N127KY" or "AVA0004" -that's me.

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Re: PZL-Mielec M18B Dromader

Postby simbabeat » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:35 am

kyokoyama wrote:Speaking of which, what exactly will be in FSweekend for FG?
(also so I can write it in the Wiki page for it)


Novemeber 6-7. http://www.fsweekend.com/index.php

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Re: PZL-Mielec M18B Dromader

Postby kyokoyama » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:55 am

Sorry, I meant where, not when.
(as in what exactly will be presented in the event)
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