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Postby IceSlayerAG » Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:02 am

Listen, I know it's a little late for me to ask this. But if possible can someone make a 727-100 for FG? As it's one of my favorite planes, and it's the only variant that isn't in the game. Thanks
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Re: Boeing 727-100

Postby Raptor » Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:44 pm

Boeing 727-200 is available for FlightGear

https://wiki.flightgear.org/727-200
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Re: Boeing 727-100

Postby IceSlayerAG » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:41 pm

It's actually the Boeing 727-100 that i was referring not the -200.
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Re: Boeing 727-100

Postby TheEagle » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:07 pm

I'm afraid there won't be anyone who's gonna do this, because it is A LOT of work. I'm developing a fairly simple aircraft - the Cessna 210 - sine over half a year now, and it is far from being complete - I'd say I've done a fifth or maybe even just a tenth of the work, even though I'm working on it in all my spare time. Now, the Boeing 727 is not a Cessna - it is FAR more complex, so would require much more work. So, unless you want to take it up yourself, I guess you'll have to put up with the -200 variant (aren't they almost the same ? :wink: ).
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Re: Boeing 727-100

Postby wkitty42 » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:11 pm

one can also take a look at the A320 which has been in development for over 5 years...
"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
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Re: Boeing 727-100

Postby V12 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:05 pm

TheEagle wrote in Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:07 pm:I'm afraid there won't be anyone who's gonna do this, because it is A LOT of work. I'm developing a fairly simple aircraft - the Cessna 210 - sine over half a year now, and it is far from being complete - I'd say I've done a fifth or maybe even just a tenth of the work, even though I'm working on it in all my spare time. Now, the Boeing 727 is not a Cessna - it is FAR more complex, so would require much more work. So, unless you want to take it up yourself, I guess you'll have to put up with the -200 variant (aren't they almost the same ? :wink: ).

You are really slow.
One forum member managed to made 320 planes in 15 years => 17 days per 1 plane :shock:
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Re: Boeing 727-100

Postby TheEagle » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:00 pm

I know, you're talking about helijah, right ? Well, you are right, but for once it's *just* YAsim - and for the other, he doesn't model all the specific pneumatic, hydraulic, fuel systems - just an electrical system that manages to have the lights on at the right times, and a basic 3D model with stock radios and instruments. His goal is quantity rather than detail - nothing wrong with that itself. But, it's these details that make the difference between a 727-100 and a 727-200, and modelling (and researching !) these details takes time. So, unless someone wants to spend 100+ hours on it, one could as well fly the -200 variant instead of the -100, because the difference won't be noticeable anyways.
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Re: Boeing 727-100

Postby V12 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:19 pm

I know that develop advanced plane for FG is very time consuming. I worked 2 years on Concorde...
With Your speed - it was a joke.
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Re: Boeing 727-100

Postby TheEagle » Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:43 pm

Uh, yes, I am slow ! :( But that's mostly due to that I want everything as close to reality as possible, and spend a considerable part of my aircraft making time on research. :wink:
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Re: Boeing 727-100

Postby WoodSTokk » Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:34 pm

No, you are not slow. I'm improving the Citation II since 4 (or 5?) years now.
It takes time if you want all correct. What you can do is cut down the work in some small pieces.
Every system is one piece, every instrument is a piece and so on.
You cant make all together, you are confusing your self, it takes a long time and you lose the motivation sometime.
So take your time and build it step by step.
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Re: Boeing 727-100

Postby Anna Tiffany » Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:38 am

Raptor wrote in Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:44 pm:Boeing 727-200 is available for FlightGear

https://wiki.flightgear.org/727-200

One problem I found with the Flightgear 727 is that the model mistakes pneumatic brake handle for parking brake.A quite obvious error wish fixed
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Re: Boeing 727-100

Postby Anna Tiffany » Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:43 am

TheEagle wrote in Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:00 pm:I know, you're talking about helijah, right ? Well, you are right, but for once it's *just* YAsim - and for the other, he doesn't model all the specific pneumatic, hydraulic, fuel systems - just an electrical system that manages to have the lights on at the right times, and a basic 3D model with stock radios and instruments. His goal is quantity rather than detail - nothing wrong with that itself. But, it's these details that make the difference between a 727-100 and a 727-200, and modelling (and researching !) these details takes time. So, unless someone wants to spend 100+ hours on it, one could as well fly the -200 variant instead of the -100, because the difference won't be noticeable anyways.

Yeah,more of models than flight sims but I believe we can improve his planes,especially single pistons with systems and instruments borrowed from GPL aircarfts.Just like his Uh-1,DC-3 and R44.It’s now year 2022,compared with other sims like P3d xplane msfs,a lot of our models are lacking system depth,which is impossible to be finished by one developer/artist.Speaking of 727,the fs2004 727 flight dynamics took the author 4 years tuning to match the real level D sim.Modeling dynamics and systems is a lot of work and I believe open source is about collaborates efforts.Editing existing aircrafts is always a good choice.727-100 for instance can borrow some systems from 707 and 737,model from 727-200
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Re: Boeing 727-100

Postby Octal450 » Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:55 pm

One problem I found with the Flightgear 727 is that the model mistakes pneumatic brake handle for parking brake.A quite obvious error wish fixed


Well typically you need to report errors for them to be fixed. Even though I haven't developed that craft in years, I still am willing to fix issues.

I've split the handle from the parking brake now - but since there is no modelled pneu brake (that entire plane is not very realistic), it does nothing now.

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Re: Boeing 727-100

Postby Anna Tiffany » Sun Jul 31, 2022 12:53 pm

May I know as GPL projects, is it possible for the 727-200 to borrow and modify some systems from the 707? Autopilot, overhead, engineer panel and even cabin. There're lots of similarities between them.(I also fly the Xplane FJS 727)
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Re: Boeing 727-100

Postby Octal450 » Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:25 pm

Probably but it's a completely waste of time because non of it would be accurate.

If the 3D was better I would have worked on it instead of the MD-80, but nobody did work on it.

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