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Re: IDG PA28 Development

Postby OE-LML » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:06 pm

Hallo!

You don't seem to understand what I am writing. Perhaps try putting into Google Translate to your nativ language?

Yeah, I already tried. But with "pissed off manor" I got some strange results, so I guess there is something wrong with Google's translation. :wink: :lol: (not to be taken seriously)

I admit " intensifies it" was a clumsy and easy to misinterpret expression.
Maybe my English looks a bit strange in some cases, but I think the rest was not too difficult to understand.
I never thought or stated that the auto-centering was a bug.

You are totally right, lets stop our hassle.
I hope at least the bystanders had a bit of fun watching it.

My personal bottom line: there was some misundertanding and misinterpreting on both sides.
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I got a question. On preflight check don't you check the steering surfaces from the cockpit by fully deflecting them (and therefore fully step in the pedals)?
I'm your opinion it's a good idea to stop working against the resistance to prevent the mechanism from damage. It's just a guess, but theoretically shouldn't it be possible to turn the wheel fully on standing position (even if you might damage something)? Just analogous to a standing car without powersteering where you try to turn the steering wheel? Or is there a mechanism that disconnects the nose gear from rudder pedals?

So now my personal point of view: If it's theoretically possible to turn the nose wheel, I would personally remove the auto-centering. It should be the users's choice how to treat or mistreat the plane. (A careless pilot might also overheat or shock-cool the engine, or lean the mixture when full power is set to cause the engine to knock, or on the Airbus use reversers for pushback, ...)

About your proposal: Do you want to marry me? :D :mrgreen: (Just joking. Sorry, I had to.)
Doesn't sound bad, but I don't know about that. If you think it's a good idea, go ahead and implement that.
If it's confirmed that theoretically it would be possible to turn the nose gear while standing, please understand that I personally will remove it (when I'm smart enough to do it).

As you are completely rewriting the Airbus:
What do you think about adding a checkbox similar to the FG-777 tiller steering. 3 checkboxes: Rudder only (for rudder check), nosewheel only (for taxi), rudder and limited nose wheel (for take off and landing)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWvJuPObLgU 3:30

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Re: IDG PA28 Development

Postby Robertfm » Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:04 pm

That accounts for the difference.
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Re: IDG PA28 Development

Postby Octal450 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:34 am

Dear OE-LML I am not ignoring you - out of state will try you a dedicated reply when I get home tomorrow.

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Re: IDG PA28 Development

Postby Robertfm » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:36 am

Josh one thing I have noticed and don't know if it is deliberate but there is no sound from the flaps. On other planes I fly you can hear when you put them down or up.
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Re: IDG PA28 Development

Postby Octal450 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:05 pm

Flaps are manual in the PA28, I guess I can add the clicking sound in the notches.

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Re: IDG PA28 Development

Postby Robertfm » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:24 pm

When you say they are manual do you mean that the flap setting in Calibration doesn't work with it.
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Re: IDG PA28 Development

Postby legoboyvdlp » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:04 pm

No.
The flaps are directly connected to the lever. It's like a handbrake lever. It's not an electric system with a motor.
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Re: IDG PA28 Development

Postby Robertfm » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:24 pm

Right I will have to look for it
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Re: IDG PA28 Development

Postby legoboyvdlp » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:31 pm

Why would you look for an electric / pneumatic / whatever motor that doesn't exist? :lol:

I'm telling you, there literally is nothing between the wire and the flaps... you won't find it!
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Re: IDG PA28 Development

Postby Robertfm » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:33 pm

The flap lever.
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Re: IDG PA28 Development

Postby legoboyvdlp » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:39 pm

Should be a lever on the bottom console similar to this one: (the top-most one)

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Re: IDG PA28 Development

Postby Robertfm » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:42 pm

So how is it activated in Josh's plane
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Re: IDG PA28 Development

Postby legoboyvdlp » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:44 pm

Click it or scroll it ;)
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Re: IDG PA28 Development

Postby Octal450 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:00 pm

Yeah, I already tried. But with "pissed off manor" I got some strange results, so I guess there is something wrong with Google's translation. :wink: :lol: (not to be taken seriously)
:mrgreen:

I got a question. On preflight check don't you check the steering surfaces from the cockpit by fully deflecting them (and therefore fully step in the pedals)?

We do not test the rudder. Because the aircraft is stationary and we can't move the nose wheel. Plus, if rudder not working, or stuck, you can still fly perfectly fine because roll can compensate with ailerons. With either ailerons or rudder not functioning, its still possible to fly and land. In fact, we learn how to land using only rudder and trim for emergency reasons.

Or is there a mechanism that disconnects the nose gear from rudder pedals?

Nope

If it's theoretically possible to turn the nose wheel

Actually its not. Sorry. Rudder and nose wheel doesn't move when stopped.

Doesn't sound bad, but I don't know about that. If you think it's a good idea, go ahead and implement that.

OK Fine.

As you are completely rewriting the Airbus:
What do you think about adding a checkbox similar to the FG-777 tiller steering. 3 checkboxes: Rudder only (for rudder check), nosewheel only (for taxi), rudder and limited nose wheel (for take off and landing)?

Nope - because checkboxes is annoying and bad.
We already switch from the tiller mode to rudder mode at 30kts. This technique was adapted from various planes I flew on P3D and thought it worked well. But we are planning to add a separate tiller control system for those who want to use an axis on tiller seperate from rudder.

Thanks for your input and Kind Regards,
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Re: IDG PA28 Development

Postby legoboyvdlp » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:11 pm

The PA28 seems to have shear bolts on the linkage so if you keep pushing too hard you might actually end up fully disabling steering!
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