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Postby vslash » Fri May 27, 2016 9:56 pm

Hi all,

I just started the Bell 412. I'm completely noobs with Aircraft modeling in FG, but I have a good bkg on coding and design too.
So, I start this thread in order to get help when things goes bad or too difficult.
For the project :
- design : Blender and different meshes and textures from the web.
- FDM : currently yasim with parameters from the uh1.
Some pictures of the work in progress:
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So it is.

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Re: Bell 412

Postby pommesschranke » Fri May 27, 2016 10:27 pm

nice!
where did you find the meshes and textures and what is their license ?

do you know about this one :
http://fguk.eu/index.php/hangar/downloa ... h1-212-412

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Re: Bell 412

Postby vslash » Sat May 28, 2016 5:54 am

The meshes is currently not complete ; it's coming from 2 sources on the net ; one is useable but false (scale errors) : the other is ok but not useable (a lot of loose parts, duplicated parts, mainly unwrappable and probably with a copryright license).
So, I'm starting to think making my own meshes from the both and the blueprint.
Thanks for the link. I will take a look at the UH1 ... as soon as the server allows me to download the file.
Some trouble I encountered:
- Source 1 (.obj ; clean meshes but with scale errors):
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- source 2 (.3ds dirty meshes, with right scale):
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Re: Bell 412

Postby StuartC » Sat May 28, 2016 8:02 am

No offence, but its a wasted effort when one already exists, which is fairly well advance.

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The Sites user database is out of whack with the users which is affecting downloading. Should be fixed this coming week.
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Re: Bell 412

Postby vslash » Mon May 30, 2016 9:35 am

Hi everyone, some work in progress tip/info:
the method I use to make a "Rivets and Plates" texture :
- tools used : Blender, Illustrator, Photoshop
1. Blender: Make uvmap according to your needs ; i use the "View other object" under uvmap editor, i don't sync with 3DView in order to keep uv's.
2. blender: Export uvmap to an svg drawing (1024x1024) ; do it for all objects that will share the same texture.
3. illustrator: import all the svg, put them together, then draws your rivet and plate according to a pattern ; I use one found on the net
4. Photoshop: copy/paste from Illustrator as SmartObject, then apply some effect as needed.
5. Blender: apply the image to the texture
With picture:
* Model found on the net:
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* Illustrator drawings:
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* Photoshop with effect:
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* Blender:
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The model I found on the net is not really accurate, but it will fill my needs.
I will put all the mess on git as soon as the first stage will be done: meshes and fgfs structure done.
CU soon.
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Re: Bell 412

Postby vslash » Mon May 30, 2016 7:26 pm

then finally :
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and the bottom :
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Next step : engine and rotors, then interior and finally the cockpit.

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Re: Bell 412

Postby vslash » Tue May 31, 2016 9:48 am

Hi dudes,

pretty nice:
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:o)

still breathing ...
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Re: Bell 412

Postby StuartC » Tue May 31, 2016 4:19 pm

Time would have been better spent on a variant we don't already have in FG, like the Venom.
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Re: Bell 412

Postby berkut » Tue May 31, 2016 5:46 pm

Not so easy when some people are simply ignoring others.... but,who knows..maybe we can have two versions of the same helicopter .

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Re: Bell 412

Postby StuartC » Tue May 31, 2016 5:57 pm

leads to confusion and version conflicts.
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Re: Bell 412

Postby vslash » Tue May 31, 2016 7:54 pm

thank you guys, you're welcome !
simply read carefuly the title of this thread : "Bell 412" in the Aircraft section. Perhaps could you open another thread "Why people design aircraft they like", or "Why there's Microsoft and Linux on the same computer" in the "Does god exists" section ?
To much trolls here, anyway, for those that will read this thread later : the Bell 412 will be pushed on github, just crawl it and be patient, there's a lot of work to come.
Thank you,
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Re: Bell 412

Postby legoboyvdlp » Tue May 31, 2016 8:26 pm

Hi, vslash!
Despite the fact that there is already a Huey in FGUK, you did an awesome job on this! You did it really quickly too -- you only started on Friday!
If you need help with anything, just let any of us know, and we'll be sure to help :D

And also, kudos to you for not asking for a Bell 412 to be made, but instead just doing it... and doing it very well! That's something which I appreciate a lot, and makes me more likely to offer support. :)
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Re: Bell 412

Postby StuartC » Tue May 31, 2016 8:47 pm

vslash wrote in Tue May 31, 2016 7:54 pm:thank you guys, you're welcome !
simply read carefuly the title of this thread : "Bell 412" in the Aircraft section. Perhaps could you open another thread "Why people design aircraft they like", or "Why there's Microsoft and Linux on the same computer" in the "Does god exists" section ?
To much trolls here, anyway, for those that will read this thread later : the Bell 412 will be pushed on github, just crawl it and be patient, there's a lot of work to come.
Thank you,
bye,
v/

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I'm not a troll we simply pointed out the Bell412 already exists, but if that's enough for you to class me or anyone else a troll that just makes you a ****. (edited by moderator because someone pointed out there are alternative definitions of this word that not everyone may be aware of.)
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Re: Bell 412

Postby vslash » Tue May 31, 2016 9:32 pm

@legoboy : thank you very much, I've a lot of time currently, and try to keep my mind up ! I started to take a look into nasal and some other xml stuff, and that is a big task. So i'll come later to ask if needed ... thanks.
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Re: Bell 412

Postby vslash » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:09 pm

Finaly, i'm proud to announce the new Bell-412 v0.6 is released, featuring:
- Highly realistic and immersive model for Flightgear.
- Yasim parameters according to Bell412 specs and limitations.
- complete Fuel System Management from real Bell-412
- complete Electrical System from real Bell-412 schematics
- ALS and Rembrandt support with enhanced lightings
- Very nice Bell-412 Flight Manual.pdf documentation included.
- checklist support
- FG 2017.3 OK.
- less than 512Mo in VRAM with Rembrandt + 4K shadows.
- ... and many more improvments.

Download:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/bell-412/
Demo:
Rembrandt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wKSpqxpcXo
ALS : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9zDDkkt4XM&t=16s

Thanks to the Flightgear dev. team for making one the best Flightsim API I know.
Hope this version will fill your needs, it was a hard but always funny and very interesting work for me,

Happy Flightgear
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