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Re: Bombardier Q400 v1.0

Postby tdammers » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:17 pm

Maybe I can dig in and see if I can figure it out...
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Re: Bombardier Q400 v1.0

Postby Oswald » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:47 pm

I can confirm tdammers' experience with the two canvas windows. The way I deal with it is making my choices, closing the window and pushing the remaining empty window in the lower left edge of the screen where it nearly vanishes for good. That is before your corrections, D-ECHO, haven't tried out the changes.

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Re: Bombardier Q400 v1.0

Postby Octal450 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:53 am

HI guys,
I'm looking into it, will let you know.

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Re: Bombardier Q400 v1.0

Postby massima » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:01 pm

I get this:

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Cannot find property-rule configuration file 'Aircraft/Q400/Systems/pfd.xml'.
Cannot find property-rule configuration file 'Aircraft/Q400/Systems/MFD.xml'.
Cannot find property-rule configuration file 'Aircraft/Q400/Systems/model.xml'.
FGPropertyManager::GetNode() No node found for /velocities/groundspeed-kt

In file /media/attila/back_up/flightgear/Q400-jsb/Systems/q400-fcs.xml: line 345

  [b]IndependentVar property, /velocities/groundspeed-kt in Table definition is not defined. [/b]                       
                                                         

Aircraft system element has problems in file Path "/media/attila/back_up/flightgear/Q400-jsb/q400-jsb.xml"
Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting...
Possible cause: File o directory non esistente
Errore di segmentazione

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Re: Bombardier Q400 v1.0

Postby legoboyvdlp » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:04 pm

The folder should be named Q400 - not Q400-jsb.
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Re: Bombardier Q400 v1.0

Postby D-ECHO » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:28 pm

Yup... this may be the problem
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Re: Bombardier Q400 v1.0

Postby tdammers » Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:02 pm

It probably is. The Q400 has all sorts of references to files that include the `Aircraft/Q400` directory; if you change that, it goes wrong. It gets even more hilarious when you have the original Q400 (as found in FGADDON) installed via the launcher; then the new Q400 will take some of its files from the old one, and of course that goes spectacularly wrong.

Ideally, aircraft shouldn't need to do this, and I've seen more subtle bugs caused by this, like an aircraft originally derived from something else, and still retaining paths to the old directory, and as long as you have the right versions of both installed, everything works, but then when you remove the other aircraft, the one that accidentally depends on it breaks.
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Re: Bombardier Q400 v1.0

Postby massima » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:11 pm

Thanks, the name was the problem.
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Re: Bombardier Q400 v1.0

Postby Octal450 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:36 pm

Hello Oswald, and others.

Sorry for the so long delay. I made HUGE improvements to aerodynamics, now you should be able to takeoff/land at proper speeds... I had the wrong impression of the speeds when I designed it before.. sorry for that.

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Re: Bombardier Q400 v1.0

Postby Oswald » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:16 pm

Hi Josh,

there is certainly no reason whatsoever to apologize for any delay, at least I had many good hours with the aircraft. The more I am looking forward to the new development, just downloading :) Thank you and D-ECHO for carrying on with development!

Oswald


... a few minutes later: Having said that, unfortunately the fuel and payload dialogue fails me: It opens as a single window and can neither be changed nor closed. What to do?
I had not downloaded the last changes dealing with fuel and payload as the old version had worked for me.
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Re: Bombardier Q400 v1.0

Postby Oswald » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:53 pm

Hi,

I simply took the "new" Q400 and exchanged the gui/dialogs bit to that of the old one and everything worked fine. Smooth start, landing with adequate speed and AoA, no unsuspected stalling.

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Re: Bombardier Q400 v1.0

Postby Octal450 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:07 am

Sounds great!

Thanks,
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PS: We continue to look into the weird dialogs.
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Re: Bombardier Q400 v1.0

Postby tdammers » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:21 pm

Just a quick heads-up; I'm still experiencing problems with the "Fuel and Payload" dialog; just pulled the latest version from D-ECHO and compiled the latest version of the 2018.3 branch of both FG and SimGear, also pulled in the corresponding FGDATA. The dialog opens fine, but remains completely unresponsive, none of the widget works, and I cannot close it. The log says that "_widget" doesn't exist.
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Re: Bombardier Q400 v1.0

Postby Oswald » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:33 pm

Back to my posting from Sep 05: In the previous version of the gui/dialogs bit I was able to make my choices and plunged the remaining nasal window in a far corner where I can hardly see it. After the recent updates of FDM I rechanged the gui/dialogs to the previous version and it works as before.
I did have the same problem with the last update of the payload dialog, so maybe it might be a good idea to undo the latest update of this.
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Re: Bombardier Q400 v1.0

Postby Octal450 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:04 am

I'm going to put the old one back for now. It's too far messed up at the moment.

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