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Fiat G.91 - YASim

Postby helijah » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:29 am

Split off from the topic FIAT G91-R (Gina) - JSBSim.

Hey J Maverick 16

For information, a Fiat G91 is already available in my hangar
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Re: FIAT G91-R (Gina) - JSBSim

Postby helijah » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:35 am

J Maverick 16 wrote in Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:11 pm:PS: Is there still a Prowler in your devels helijah?


I'm sorry "J Maverick 16" but I do not understand this sentence?

Regarding the subject of this discussion here are two pictures of the G91 in progress
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Re: Fiat G.91 - YASim

Postby helijah » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:54 am

Hi all

For information, this Fiat G91 made its debut on SVN today.

Development continues of course :)

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Re: Fiat G.91 - YASim

Postby abassign » Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:19 am

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Many differences between the model and the actual aircraft immediately noticeable, for example, watch these two very similar views of the G91 Berenger with a real one.
1) - The rudder is narrower and shaped aesthetically pretty (Gabrielli is Italian and had a sense of aesthetic taste typical of that culture).
2) - The tail is completely different, the output of the gases of the engine must be wider (the G91 was not a MB326, as seems to be derived from this particular).
3) - The lower adapter is shaped like shark and is therefore much more rounded.
4) - The LANDING GEAR IS TOTALLY WRONG! The position of the doors is reversed and their shape does not coincide minimally to the real one, the wheels are larger in diameter!
5) - From what airplane he took this front landing gear? Completely redo! It is the landing gear of another aircraft.
6) - The nose is very different from the reality.
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Re: Fiat G.91 - YASim

Postby pjedvaj » Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:57 am

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Maybe he was modeling this variant of Gina. You should really stop arguing and get to work. :idea:
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Re: Fiat G.91 - YASim

Postby abassign » Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:05 am

@pjedvaj

You're right in the middle, like I am right in the middle for the shutters of the landing gear. ... the shutters for each landing gear are two, because you have to work much more on the model, I think I help you sending the original drawings of the landing gear, which you can get from the manuals downloaded from Aviologs.

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Obviously the shutters (2) inside the landing gear opens only during the opening of the landing gear and then closes it later. The same thing for the front shutter landing gear (3). Instead the leg of the main landing gear is absolutely different, to help those who want to do the 3D drawing I have inserted the design drawing from the "Parts Manual" of AMI.

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Again excuse of my oversight, but obviously remain to fix all the other points 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 (50%) - 5 - 6
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Re: Fiat G.91 - YASim

Postby helijah » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:04 pm

Even as some prefer to criticize without understanding (or not wanting to understand) I urge the leaders of the forum delete this discussion that I have not created.

This type of remark is done in private and, as I have always done, I answered and modifies if the remarks are justifée;

Most remarks are made from a single photo, but then another shows differences;
There is no plane that is ALWAYS the same! And the choices I made are always tradeoffs between realism and "3D real time";

But it is still necessary to have a 3D programming experience and understand how it works;

Even as some prefer to criticize without understanding (or not wanting to understand) I urge the leaders of the forum delete this discussion that I have not created.

This type of remark is done in private and, as I have always done, I answered and modifies if the remarks are justifée;

Most remarks are made from a single photo, but then another shows differences;
There is no plane that is ALWAYS the same! And the choices I made are always tradeoffs between realism and "3D real time";

But it is still necessary to have a 3D programming experience and understand how it works;

Free criticism is always easy; And of course it is always possible to do better. But my goal is not to be the best (I leave that to the kids who think themselves superior), but simply to bring pleasure to the greatest number

Start a model by small details is doom the project to failure. it should really be igorant for not understand;

Regards Emmanuel

P.S. Thank you to erase this discussion as a whole. It has nothing to do here.
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Re: Fiat G.91 - YASim

Postby Johan G » Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:53 am

Some off topic posts have been split off to the new topic The GNU GPL license and unwritten rules of curtesy.
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