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Re: A new CH-53E super stallion

Postby StuartC » Sat Nov 21, 2015 8:21 pm

Well the original FDM was developing 70000 kw of power, this one is much closer to the power of the real helicopter and not a small powers station. It is still not as manouverable as it should be though as the real one is much much more agile that my FDM lets it be. The old FDM was noting like the real one at all.
Go watch some display videos to see just how manouverable the real one actually is.
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Re: A new CH-53E super stallion

Postby wlbragg » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:06 pm

so I released what I had

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Re: A new CH-53E super stallion

Postby abassign » Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:10 am

@Richard end @StuartC

I'm sorry, I must have touched a raw nerve ... However I believe it is important to work in a coordinated way in a project of a plane for a project FGFs, it's a shame that more people working on the project independently. Our group of FGFs is small and the people who can work well are few, you are two of these, we do not waste resources and time. In the case of CH-53E was better to come out version 1.3 coordinated among multiple developers, not a "strange" version 1.5 that deceived me as a user of FGFS!
Version 1.5 is de facto a Fork of 1.2, it is important clarity in this field, otherwise all of us lose our time! If @StuartC did a fork that is his right! But it is also right that says explicitly that is a fork and therefore another project! Then, with time, the best one of the two projects will become the reference.
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Re: A new CH-53E super stallion

Postby geed » Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:39 am

I don't think, you touched a raw nerve, you just didn't follow a common netiquette.

If you would read " I desperately searched the option to make it disappear, but apparently this is not possible, disgusting!" - especially your last statement, would you continue discussing the topic unbiased?

There are simple rules in dealing with other people. It's easy.

Besides: Offer help instead of demanding and offending.
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Re: A new CH-53E super stallion

Postby Richard » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:09 am

abassign wrote in Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:10 am:I'm sorry, I must have touched a raw nerve ...


You did not touch a raw nerve, what you wrote appeared rude and sarcastic.

All of the following messages (and waste of developer time discussing) could have been avoided by simply publishing a factual bug report.

I'll be merging in Stuart's changes into FGAddon later on. Once I've done this I invite you to submit a patch yourself if you can't wait for someone else to fix it..
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Re: A new CH-53E super stallion

Postby StuartC » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:40 am

On a plus note, The Doors and ramps do animate over Multiplayer. Im well chuffed with that as I had to assign MP properties to the animation. Ive never done that before.

So, this means, you can have a Live crew on board, with eyes all over to assist the pilot in placing this huge bird exactly where it needs to be.
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Re: A new CH-53E super stallion

Postby abassign » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:03 pm

Change requests that I consider useful for the project CH 53E:

1. What is the current version of the CH53E 1.2 or 1.5 or any other version that does not know?
2. You can not make visible, through a menu command, the object positioned in place of the co-pilot?
3. You can delete translucent cones simulating lights in ALS mode?
4. You can place the floor in the cargo floor?
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Re: A new CH-53E super stallion

Postby Lydiot » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:12 pm

Speaking of absolutely nothing: Are there liveries available for this somewhere?
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Re: A new CH-53E super stallion

Postby Richard » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:20 pm

abassign wrote in Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:03 pm:1. What is the current version of the CH53E 1.2 or 1.5 or any other version that does not know?
2. You can not make visible, through a menu command, the object positioned in place of the co-pilot?
3. You can delete translucent cones simulating lights in ALS mode?
4. You can place the floor in the cargo floor?


1. The internal version is 1.5; the current version is 1.2 which was my mistake it always should have been 1.5. The next will be 1.5.1

2. Will add a dialog to control the co-pilot and the lighting cones.

3. The lighting cones will disappear when using Rembrandt or ALS, and the visibility will be reduced based on ambient light to make them less intrusive.

4. The texture on the inside fuselage (cargo floor) will be redone to something that looks more like a floor.

5. FDM merges - hoping to come up with a single version. At the moment I'm still not sure about which is the correct one; discussions with redtwo and StuartC are required.

6. FGUK changes will be included, VooDoo has fixed the internal ambient lighting, StuartC has fixed the list posted earlier.

I'm hoping to get this done before the 3.8 release (i.e. before the 17th December) but my spare time is short.
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Re: A new CH-53E super stallion

Postby abassign » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:02 pm

@Richard

Finally everything is clear to me, so I can write on the italian Facebook forum ( https://www.facebook.com/flightgearitalia/ ) by the progress of this project.

Thanks, promises to be a splendid work!

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Re: A new CH-53E super stallion

Postby StuartC » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:34 pm

Richard, can you upload the other FDM to the cloud so I can test it please.
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Re: A new CH-53E super stallion

Postby redtwo » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:14 am

Richard wrote in Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:20 pm:5. FDM merges - hoping to come up with a single version. At the moment I'm still not sure about which is the correct one; discussions with redtwo and StuartC are required.

My fixes have been in FGAddon for a while now, and are correct AFAIK. They include fixes to the rotor diameters and hstab (yasim mirrors the hstab left and right, but this heli its on the right only).

Stuarts changes to the FDM increased the max collective and max cyclic incidence degrees of the rotors to give the heli more control. I could not verify these numbers myself at the time with the documentation i was able to find.

I dont see a problem including Stuarts FDM changes, so please go ahead and merge them into FGAddon.
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Re: A new CH-53E super stallion

Postby StuartC » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:05 pm

Bolting my FDM changes onto a different FDM may not produce the same results though. Infact it could change it from being flyable to completely uncontrollable.
So, if possible can you pass your FDM to me so I can do a trial fitting, so to speak.
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Re: A new CH-53E super stallion

Postby redtwo » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:50 pm

StuartC wrote in Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:05 pm:So, if possible can you pass your FDM to me so I can do a trial fitting, so to speak.

http://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/fga ... /ch53e.xml
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Re: A new CH-53E super stallion

Postby StuartC » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:28 pm

Got it. Richard uploaded to the FGUK cloud earlier.
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