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Re: Tu-154B for FlightGear - some screenshots

Postby MyName » Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:24 am

LOL I managed to start all engines, but the plane wouldn't actuate the elevons, no matter how hard I pressed the "down" key :D It just wouldn't take off.
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Re: Tu-154B for FlightGear - some screenshots

Postby Liam » Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:36 am

you mean the ailerons? try pressing the ] button to lower the flaps.
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Re: Tu-154B for FlightGear - some screenshots

Postby Liam » Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:41 am

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Re: Tu-154B for FlightGear - some screenshots

Postby MyName » Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:53 am

Liam wrote:you mean the ailerons? try pressing the ] button to lower the flaps.
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No, I mean the things behind the tail, that move up and down, you know. :lol:
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Re: Tu-154B for FlightGear - some screenshots

Postby Gijs » Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:36 pm

MyName wrote:No, I mean the things behind the tail, that move up and down, you know. :lol:

So you meant elevators (elevons are combinations of Elevators and Ailerons, that you only find on planes like the F-117 and B-2). ;)
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Re: Tu-154B for FlightGear - some screenshots

Postby yurik_nsk » Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:53 pm

Manual in English translator


It's horror! Many aviation terms has translate absolutelly wrong!

pls, wait. We will put English manual next week.

but the plane wouldn't actuate the elevons, no matter how hard I pressed the "down"


All of flight controls of Tu-154 work via hydro powered busters, so you must turn they on (339).
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Re: Tu-154B for FlightGear - some screenshots

Postby MyName » Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:57 pm

Is that switch on the FE panel? I turned all of them on. :lol:
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Re: Tu-154B for FlightGear - some screenshots

Postby yurik_nsk » Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:05 pm

I turned all of them on.


It's not enough:)

You can find switch layout in Docs/tu154.html. It's not translated yet, but there is many pictures.

First digit of switch number is same of number of view, so if you want to operate switch 339, you should press "3" and find it there.

For busters, you should turn on three tumblers under green cover, and close cover.
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Re: Tu-154B for FlightGear - some screenshots

Postby MyName » Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:29 pm

It took me some 15 minutes to turn on the engines. It isn't like those Boeing airliners, you just have to start APU, remove engine pack isolation, press "AUTOSTART" and turn the engine knobs to "START". :mrgreen:
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Re: Tu-154B for FlightGear - some screenshots

Postby YourDailyTsunami » Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:38 pm

loool when I finally managed to start the engines there was I loud warning sound. When I ignored this and spooled up the engines anyway the controls didn't react
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Re: Tu-154B for FlightGear - some screenshots

Postby yurik_nsk » Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:50 pm

Well, I want to help you.
Read this, and see picture from Docs/tu154.html

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Starting the engine

First, we need the electric power:

Turn the battery (sw. 569).

Turn the converter 565 and 567.

Turn the lights Bano (341).

Secondly, we need to start the APU:

Includes APU start (570) and start/cold (571). After a few seconds, turn on board 577-F ( "APU door opened").

Turn the fuel pump sw. 572. Light board 577-G, H.

Turn automatic launcher by pressing the "START" (574). When the APU starts, turns placard "Out on the regime" (577-I).

Turn the APU generator on the network (switch 552 in the upper position).

And thirdly, we need to fuel pressure. Prepare to work the fuel system:

Turn fuel meter 5015 and 5020 flow meter. Exposes the fuel level on the device 530.

Turn automatic flow (5018), and automatic alignment (5016).

Toggle automatic flow in automatic mode (sw. 5019 in top position).

Turn pumps tanks 2,3,4 (sw. 580, 581, 5007, 5008, 5009).

Turn pumps expendable tank 1 (4-sw. 5012).

Turn cutoff valves 5014. I get a fuel pressure engines extinguished the placard "P fuel (579-P)

And fourthly, we need the hot air. Push the switch 573 in the upward position, and holds up until 577-H has gone.

Turn the temperature control of turbine exhaust (sw. 5030-5032).

Engines ready for launch. We translate the stop-cranes in the front position on the left side of the flight engineer desk, three-arm, with a red lamp failure.

Open the lid remote start engine 5038.

Turn launcher automatic (5038-A) and the "cold-launch" to upward ("launch") (5038-B).

On the real aircraft, in temperatures below -5 'C to include heating ignition device (5038-C). However, in this version of the model, the engine will run regardless of temperature and heating.

Start the engine:

Turn flashing lights OMI (342).

Choose 4-pos. switch (5038-D) engine for start.

Push button start 5038-E. If necessary preparatory procedures implemented correctly, the green lamp lights up "PDA works (5038-G) and the engine will gather rpms. After exiting the engine to idle rpm, quenched lamp 5038-G.

Choosing a switch (5038-D) following the engine and repeat the procedure.

If necessary, stop the process, you can start by clicking on 5038-F.

After starting the engines:

Set the 5038-D in the middle position and close the lid panel.

Connect generators to power bus (561-563) and put the switch 552 in the middle position.

By clicking 5026 charges Hydroaccumulator emergency brake (control manometer 535) until the 5024 lamp gone.

Connects hydropower to RA-56 aggregates (540-548).

Turn the system improve the longitudinal controllability (549).

Turn off APU. To do this:

Close bleed air valve switch 573 by pressing down, until the fire board "is ready to run" (577-H).

Stops turbine APU by pressing the "STOP" (575).

Disable fuel pump APU (572) launcher and automation (570).
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Re: Tu-154B for FlightGear - some screenshots

Postby MaverickAlex » Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:20 pm

If i can put my observations in regarding this aircraft and the people that are trying to use it.

As you can see, there have been Many many hours of very hard work and commitment given to this project by Yurik and the team of eople who have done this.
It has quite clearly been modelled and the FDM created as realistically as possible to exacting standards.

So, the manual hasn't been translated into full english yet? Then be patient and WAIT or at least take the time to view the documents and read up whatever information IS provided already.

Whinging and whining that "this doesnt work" or " i can't turn this on" when it is quite clearly explained in the documentation or user guide shows lack of respect for Yurik.

If you want a "plug & play" aircraft use one of the others wher you can just strap in and press go,if not please do the creators the courtesy of reading up on the information provided.

My compliments to Yurik and the team involved. An AWESOME acheivement
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Re: Tu-154B for FlightGear - some screenshots

Postby ap » Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:42 pm

MaverickAlex wrote:So, the manual hasn't been translated into full english yet? Then be patient and WAIT or at least take the time to view the documents and read up whatever information IS provided already.

Right.
Or, more productively, y'all can help yourselves and whole community by further translating the GTM (Google Translated Manual) to plain English right on flightgear.ru's wiki already mentioned earlier in this thread.
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Re: Tu-154B for FlightGear - some screenshots

Postby Liam » Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:45 pm

we are waiting... I fail to remember anyone complaining. Its a fantastic aircraft.
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Re: Tu-154B for FlightGear - some screenshots

Postby bisutti » Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:39 pm

Thanks for your replies guys, but anyway I think you should put the magic button called "Autostart" :P that would help us enormously.
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