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Re: Bombardier CRJ700 series/CRJ900 replacement

Postby jsb » Sun May 10, 2015 6:00 pm

Thanks IH-COL, I will come back to your offer and tell you when I have a stable version available.
I found out, that there is a "real" 12 tons moving simulator in the Lufthansa training facilies in Germany/Berlin, and now the best: they have a company selling the free time slots to private persons. While it can get quite expansive to be a pilot there for an hour, the so called observer seat is afordable. I may visit it soon and hopefully get details how this great plane works. :)
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Re: Bombardier CRJ700 series/CRJ900 replacement

Postby IAHM-COL » Sun May 10, 2015 6:08 pm

try to take high quality pictures on the cockpit
These are always great resources for the modelling too

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Re: Bombardier CRJ700 series/CRJ900 replacement

Postby jsb » Sun May 10, 2015 6:36 pm

Yes, for sure. And I will take a folding ruler (hope that's the right translation) with me to get some centimeter information.
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Re: Bombardier CRJ700 series/CRJ900 replacement

Postby IAHM-COL » Sun May 10, 2015 7:00 pm

Nice :D

I also can confirm
With master branch

CRJ700 : launches 5by5
CRJ900 : launches 5by5
CRJ1000: Launch failure

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YASim SOLUTION FAILURE:
Solution failed to converge after 10000 iterations


Using git 3.5 with FGDATA next with submodules


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Re: Bombardier CRJ700 series/CRJ900 replacement

Postby clrCoda » Sun May 10, 2015 10:19 pm

@anyone, I edited my post above to reflect that it's the 1000eurolite and the 1000 with problems loading sim. I had mistakenly said 900 and that was corrected.

@israel 1) not just Soitanen but also Epilot is still working on the one that soitanen used to begin his work. The difference is that Epilots version will be more intuitive to a flightgear user, where as Soitanen is doing his best to achieve as close to reality as he can possibly get. I seperated the crj family from the 733 because depending on what version of the 733 you get, you may not get the dependent files you require. Such is already the case with the 733classic by Epilot. The files the crj family need are no longer in the 733classicEpilot. I bet it is true like you say that they may no longer be in the Soitanen version. The do exist in the version at the FGaircraftDownloads, and that's where I got the files to fix the 'Family'

2) the two planes that don't seem to launch are the 1000 and the 1000Eurolite. Not sure why yet. Occasionally I can get skyop's attention and I will ask him if he knows. He's pretty much concentrating on his collage work, as should be :)

3) Knowing skyop this will be a plane that requires that the A/P be not turned on until 1000AGL and shut off by 300agl on approach. It's been a couple months but I did fly the 700ER successfully during my test of Globals 45 Airports added for the South American continent.

I'll need a refresher flight -- but anytime you would like to test this plane with me on mumble, just say so and I am there for you buddy :) The plane comes with a good autopilot.html in the 'family'/Docs folder for reference.

--My best to you and thanks for helping keep all of the work on these various versions straight. I left it to you for that very reason
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Re: Bombardier CRJ700 series/CRJ900 replacement

Postby clrCoda » Sun May 10, 2015 11:05 pm

While loading and attempting to diagnose the crj1000 I found a dependency on the 777 :

Aircraft/777/Models/Instruments/MFD/nd_symbols.png

in the crash log. I'll fix this next and try loading the 1000 again, which crashes for me on each load.
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Re: Bombardier CRJ700 series/CRJ900 replacement

Postby clrCoda » Sun May 10, 2015 11:43 pm

Found at lines 733 and 734 of CRJ700-main.xml

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  <radar-texture-path type="string">Aircraft/777/Models/Instruments/MFD/od_wxradar.png</radar-texture-path>
            <symbol-texture-path type="string">Aircraft/777/Models/Instruments/MFD/nd_symbols.png</symbol-texture-path>


and replaced with putting the png's from an age appropriate 777 ( one hopes ) and changing the above to

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  <radar-texture-path type="string">Aircraft/CRJ700-family/Models/Instruments/MFD/od_wxradar.png</radar-texture-path>
            <symbol-texture-path type="string">Aircraft/CRJ700-family/Models/Instruments/MFD/nd_symbols.png</symbol-texture-path>


still doesn't fix the 1000 and 1000eurolite loading problem.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5kesuzy9tok6p2e/CRJ700-family20150510b.zip?dl=0

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Re: Bombardier CRJ700 series/CRJ900 replacement

Postby IAHM-COL » Mon May 11, 2015 2:59 pm

Hi Ray
I mounted your patch
https://github.com/FGMEMBERS/CRJ700-fam ... f81f38cd17
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Re: Bombardier CRJ700 series/CRJ900 replacement

Postby jsb » Mon May 11, 2015 3:06 pm

That was already fixed, but anyhow, thanks ;)
I really need to get my repo sorted and push all the bugfixes to the master branch
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Re: Bombardier CRJ700 series/CRJ900 replacement

Postby IAHM-COL » Mon May 11, 2015 3:26 pm

looking forward to that JSB
I will pay attention on the 1000 bug too, in case I catch it
I will create an issue on the FGMEMBERs repo about this too

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Re: Bombardier CRJ700 series/CRJ900 replacement

Postby IAHM-COL » Mon May 11, 2015 3:40 pm

jsb wrote in Mon May 11, 2015 3:06 pm:That was already fixed, but anyhow, thanks ;)
I really need to get my repo sorted and push all the bugfixes to the master branch


By the way: this patch is applied to GlobalVA Version, where it was not fixed.
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Re: Bombardier CRJ700 series/CRJ900 replacement

Postby IAHM-COL » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:05 pm

clrCoda wrote in Sun May 10, 2015 11:43 pm:still doesn't fix the 1000 and 1000eurolite loading problem.



Dear Ray
I have the chance to look at the loading problem of the CRJ1000 and CRJ1000-EuroLite

Althought I do not understand the fundamentals or the crashing, I found that reverting some cruise speed adjustment made by Skyop in these two aircraft FIXED this issue.

Explanation:

https://github.com/FGMEMBERS/CRJ700-family/commits/master/CRJ1000.xml

On June 2013, Skyop fixed the "cruise speed" for the whole family. Changing 447 for 560
https://github.com/FGMEMBERS/CRJ700-family/commit/34fed7cf0372adcd73abb2182f9f60eac3578332

This had an unnoticed effect braking the yasim for the CRJ1000 and CRJ1000ER (causing the "failure to launch" problem). It had not the same effect in other aircrafts of the family that remained functional (like the CRJ700, CRJ900, and even the CRJ1000ER. I can't explain why)

This is verified by my reversal of that line in the two conflicting aircraft here:
https://github.com/FGMEMBERS/CRJ700-family/commit/a3d7e9087563aa4bcb8c9a6a237314c30d571c5c

(on July 4, 2015 -- Happy Four for the American FGers!)

Now. After that change, all the family happily launches! :D
[btw.. you can obtain the globalVA variant with the fix on:
https://github.com/FGMEMBERS/CRJ700-family/tree/globalVA ]

Happy flying...

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Re: Bombardier CRJ700 series/CRJ900 replacement

Postby clrCoda » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:27 pm

Fabulous!

Well done Israel. Well tracked and well fixed.

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Re: Bombardier CRJ700 series/CRJ900 replacement

Postby jsb » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:54 pm

Excellent! :D
I am happy to announce, that the hydraulic system and the electric systems (AC and DC) are almost done and in testing.
Also, the EICAS doors page has been added. I hope to release it to public test by end of month.
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Re: Bombardier CRJ700 series/CRJ900 replacement

Postby hamzaalloush » Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:48 pm

hi all,

jsb, do you intend to communicate with Skyop in order to get these changes upstream? i'm really interested in this effort.

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