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Re: instrumentation/tacan/switch-position - Any ideas?

Postby wkitty42 » Fri May 20, 2022 2:44 pm

TheEagle wrote in Fri May 20, 2022 10:09 am:I've same version, and I get nothing at all when searching for TACAN ! :?

same here... i also use d&c... i do get results if i search for "tac" and "taca" but nothing like woodstokk's output...
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Re: instrumentation/tacan/switch-position - Any ideas?

Postby WoodSTokk » Fri May 20, 2022 3:13 pm

Hmm, i compiled with d&c on 31. March.
I have also looked if i use custom navdata, but no.
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Re: instrumentation/tacan/switch-position - Any ideas?

Postby TheEagle » Fri May 20, 2022 4:31 pm

????????
I've just checked with up-to-date git next, and with the 1 year old 2020.4.0 AppImage - both give 0 results for a location search for "tacan" ! :?: :? :shock: :o
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Re: instrumentation/tacan/switch-position - Any ideas?

Postby WoodSTokk » Fri May 20, 2022 8:45 pm

Okay, last try to clear the odds.
My nav.dat.gz under ~/flightgear-next/install/flightgear/fgdata/Navaids/:
- is from 22. Feb. 2021
- is 681007 Byte in size
- has a sha1 checksum of f2573f24c9189f773376e4555fc06421efead9ef

If you have a different one, i will upload my file for you.
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Re: instrumentation/tacan/switch-position - Any ideas?

Postby TheEagle » Fri May 20, 2022 8:55 pm

Nope, my copy of that file has the same size and checksum !?!? :?
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Re: instrumentation/tacan/switch-position - Any ideas?

Postby WoodSTokk » Fri May 20, 2022 9:00 pm

I'm on Debian 11.3 Bullseye with
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$ sqlitebrowser -v
DB Browser for SQLite Version 3.12.1

Built for x86_64-little_endian-lp64, running on x86_64
Qt Version 5.15.1
SQLite Version 3.33.0.


Maybe that the difference?
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Re: instrumentation/tacan/switch-position - Any ideas?

Postby TheEagle » Fri May 20, 2022 9:14 pm

I don't have the sqlitebrowser … my SQLite version is 3.31:
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~$ apt show libsqlite3-0
Package: libsqlite3-0
Version: 3.31.1-4ubuntu0.3
Priority: important
Section: libs
Source: sqlite3
Origin: Ubuntu
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
Original-Maintainer: Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS) <gcs@debian.org>
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Installed-Size: 1 355 kB
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.29)
Breaks: python-migrate (<< 0.11.0-4~), python3-migrate (<< 0.11.0-4~)
Homepage: https://www.sqlite.org/
Task: minimal, ubuntu-core
Download-Size: 549 kB
APT-Manual-Installed: no
APT-Sources: http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 Packages
Description: Laufzeit-Bibliothek für SQLite 3
 SQLite ist eine C-Bibliothek, die eine SQL-Datenbank-Maschine
 implementiert. Programme, die mit der SQLite-Bibliothek gebunden werden,
 können SQL-Datenbankzugriffe benutzen, ohne einen separaten RDBMS-Prozess
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Re: instrumentation/tacan/switch-position - Any ideas?

Postby WoodSTokk » Fri May 20, 2022 10:53 pm

Here is the output on my system:
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$ LANG=C apt show libsqlite3-0
Package: libsqlite3-0
Version: 3.34.1-3
Priority: optional
Section: libs
Source: sqlite3
Maintainer: Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS) <gcs@debian.org>
Installed-Size: 1553 kB
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.29)
Breaks: python-migrate (<< 0.11.0-4~), python3-migrate (<< 0.11.0-4~)
Homepage: https://www.sqlite.org/
Tag: role::shared-lib
Download-Size: 797 kB
APT-Manual-Installed: no
APT-Sources: http://debian.mur.at/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages
Description: SQLite 3 shared library
 SQLite is a C library that implements an SQL database engine.
 Programs that link with the SQLite library can have SQL database
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Re: instrumentation/tacan/switch-position - Any ideas?

Postby ScottBouch » Sat May 21, 2022 1:26 pm

Is this the sort of thing where a ticket should be raised on the flightgear sourceforge page?
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Re: instrumentation/tacan/switch-position - Any ideas?

Postby wkitty42 » Sat May 21, 2022 2:14 pm

ScottBouch wrote in Sat May 21, 2022 1:26 pm:Is this the sort of thing where a ticket should be raised on the flightgear sourceforge page?

yes, it might be a good idea to do so and include a link to this forum topic, too...
the sqlite stuff is built into FG so what's on one's system should matter IIUC... well, maybe the -dev packages would matter but it really shouldn't considering that it only takes the data and adds it to the database for use with the rest of FG...
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Re: instrumentation/tacan/switch-position - Any ideas?

Postby Alant » Sat May 21, 2022 8:30 pm

I have done a few checks.
The tacan beacons are listed in fgdata/navaids/nav.dat.gz, but are not found by Flightgear launcher.
When Flightgear is running , Phi map shows VYL, the tacan beacon at RAF Valley.
From this it appears that the problem is with the launcher.
Perhaps James will take this on if we tell him on the devel email list. I can do this if you wish. The launcher is his baby.
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Re: instrumentation/tacan/switch-position - Any ideas?

Postby wkitty42 » Sat May 21, 2022 10:00 pm

Alant, i agree with you...
FWIW: check WoodSTokk's pic here on the first page of this very topic https://forum.flightgear.org/viewtopic.php?p=401288#p401288
his works but others' does not... yeah, something for james to figure out :lol:
"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
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Re: instrumentation/tacan/switch-position - Any ideas?

Postby ScottBouch » Sun May 22, 2022 12:17 pm

If you could let him know please Alant , that would be awesome! Thanks !
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Re: instrumentation/tacan/switch-position - Any ideas?

Postby Alant » Sun May 22, 2022 2:34 pm

Report duly sent to the devel list.
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Re: instrumentation/tacan/switch-position - Any ideas?

Postby Alant » Mon May 23, 2022 9:48 pm

There is a reply on the devel list see - https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/mailman/message/37657478/
Scott - could you see if you get valid radial deviation and DME signals when you tune to RAF Valley Tacan?
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