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Re: Where is the rain?

Postby Robertfm » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:27 pm

There is no overhead light in PA28.
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Re: Where is the rain?

Postby SurferTim » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:10 pm

I just checked the PA-28 at night. It's got some weird stuff happening in the left window.
It does not appear to be a reflection.
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Re: Where is the rain?

Postby Robertfm » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:14 pm

As my photos show. Tim
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Re: Where is the rain?

Postby SurferTim » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:20 pm

I can see it in the daytime. It is ALS related.
ALS on = weird
ALS off = normal
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Re: Where is the rain?

Postby Robertfm » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:26 pm

So if the ALS is turned off does that turn of rain as well. Are you talking about the ALS in Rendering Menu

Edit: Yep that removed the 'weird'.
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Re: Where is the rain?

Postby SurferTim » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:42 pm

My downloaded version of the PA-28 does not have the weird, with or without ALS.
That is the pre-rain on windscreen version.
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Re: Where is the rain?

Postby Robertfm » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:57 pm

I am guessing then that the ALS was activated with updated, but of course I am only speculating. How do you manage to run an older version. In FGAdd on when a plane has an update it won't load unless you do update the plane.
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Re: Where is the rain?

Postby SurferTim » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:18 pm

You can use downloaded versions alongside installed versions.
When you start FG launcher, select Add-ons.
In that page will show where to put your downloaded aircraft.
It will show as "Additional aircraft folders".
If there is no entry there, you should be able to add a folder.
Put all your downloaded aircraft there.

Edit: When you select an aircraft in the launcher, the FGAddon aircraft will show as "installed".
The aircraft in your personal aircraft folder won't.
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Re: Where is the rain?

Postby Robertfm » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:42 pm

Not a very successful day. Landed without problem. Parked and was setting up a return flight and the sim just shut down. Happy days.
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Re: Where is the rain?

Postby wkitty42 » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:14 pm

SurferTim wrote in Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:31 am:Is this reflection feature implemented by aircraft or globally?

like most all modeling, it is craft-side... if your craft doesn't model reflections or shadows, you won't have them...
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"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
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Re: Where is the rain?

Postby SurferTim » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:29 am

wkitty42 wrote in Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:14 pm:
SurferTim wrote in Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:31 am:Is this reflection feature implemented by aircraft or globally?

like most all modeling, it is craft-side... if your craft doesn't model reflections or shadows, you won't have them...

Thanks for that. It appears I am one of the lucky ones. Both a/c have just the right amount of reflection and shading.

Robertfm wrote in Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:42 pm:Not a very successful day. Landed without problem. Parked and was setting up a return flight and the sim just shut down. Happy days.

What were you doing when it crashed? Mine did that the other day, and it ended up being a bad airport runway number in my route manager.
Guadeloupe TFFR changed runway numbers from rwy11 to rwy12. I tried to select the previously entered route that had rwy11, and it crashed the whole sim.

Edit: Being the lazy ass that I am, I opened the suspect route with a text editor and changed the departure runway from 11 to 12. Works fine now.
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Re: Where is the rain?

Postby Robertfm » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:45 am

Could have been the runway I suppose. Back to ALS. It appears that the latest update has enable the ALS by default as the reflections were back this morning. During the day it's not a big issue but at night it is distracting and view restricting.
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Re: Where is the rain?

Postby D-ECHO » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:19 pm

Robertfm wrote in Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:46 pm:To be honest it's bloody awful.

Thank you so much! Also for the constructive feedback :)
Robertfm wrote in Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:49 am:Tim, the effect has only occurred since the update with the rain feature. I looked at the ALS link above and it would seem that these effects are not mutually inclusive. So the rain effects don't have to have the reflective effect. I also have to say if real planes have this much reflection at night then they are a positive danger when flying at night. The view to the sides is severely restricted.

The effect is included since I assigned the glass effect to the windows. This glass effect simulates as well rain as reflections etc.

Now, the reflections are correct to be there of course, I think there's no point in discussing this. What can be adjusted though is how bright they are at night, it's called "residual ambience" iirc, meaning the ambient light induced by mostly the interior illumination. You could e.g. have asked to tune it down, but nevermind.

Maybe I will look into making residual ambience correspond to the emitted light from the instruments etc., this is something that obviously needs to be implemented by the aircraft.
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Re: Where is the rain?

Postby Robertfm » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:03 pm

As I said in one of my posts turning off the lights completely had no effect. Perhaps the light from the Garmin 5 was enough, that can't be turned off. As for not asking you to tone it down, I think that was already mentioned by another poster but Thorsten seemed to indicate it couldn't be done, or of course I could have misinterpreted him. I certainly didn't mean to offend.
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Re: Where is the rain?

Postby D-ECHO » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:23 pm

I just updated the PA28, the reflection now changes depending on instrument illumination and G5 on/off
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