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Re: Cockpit instruments missing in 3d models

Postby Hooray » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:36 am

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Re: Cockpit instruments missing in 3d models

Postby Rene van Klaveren » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:20 pm

Okay, need your help on this. Because I don know what I'm looking at;

http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=e3ef55a

This is the result of glxinfo, that should show my how my opengl is running, so is it enough?

Also I got you guys a screen capture of the fps monitor in flightgear debug.

http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=e7d091c

Oh, almost forgot; the help/about screenshot: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=c376721

Again thank you in advance! Rene
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Re: Cockpit instruments missing in 3d models

Postby Hooray » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:31 pm

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As I anticipated already, you are running with software/CPU-"accelerated" OpenGL apparently (typically called "Mesa") - which basically means that FG cannot use your GPU, but instead uses your CPU for rendering OpenGL - is this the first time that you are using Linux ?
You need to get rid of Mesa and any OpenGL related headers/libraries, then re-install your graphics card drivers (typically, you need to do this via the console), then reboot your computer and check again if OpenGL is working properly, i.e. hardware-accelerated OpenGL. Which is exactly the reason why I asked for the HELP/ABOUT dialog output a few days ago :-)

Note that if you're running Linux inside a VM, things may not work as expected and require additional work - simply because OpenGL/GLSL pass-through still is experimental, even in VMWare or VirtualBox.
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Re: Cockpit instruments missing in 3d models

Postby Rene van Klaveren » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:09 pm

Searching the internet, several people encountered the same problem. And yes, this is my first linux machine. Mr. Gates got kicked out of my home. (Now Ubuntu is giving me a hard time! Damn...) Lol!

I red a sentence about selecting the opengl hardware acc. instead of the VMware thing. But this was in another distro (gettoo or something like that???) "eselect opengl set X", have we got anything similar for ubuntu/unix?


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Re: Cockpit instruments missing in 3d models

Postby Rene van Klaveren » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:16 pm

Maybe a stupid idea: just installing opengl???
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Re: Cockpit instruments missing in 3d models

Postby Hooray » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:29 pm

yes, that's a different distro (eselect) - however, it still requires that you have the proper GL installation available. Normally, I would just suggest to look for anything that contains "mesa" or "openGL" - get rid of it (via "yum remove") and then re-install ONLY the GPU drivers.
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Re: Cockpit instruments missing in 3d models

Postby Rene van Klaveren » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:37 pm

Sound like another evening of work, will get back on it tomorrow! Thanks for your effort, really appriciate it!

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Re: Cockpit instruments missing in 3d models

Postby Hooray » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:42 pm

sorry, it's "apt remove" on debian/ubuntu ... "yum" is centos/redhat.
actually, it's not that much work - normally, the driver installation handles these things, the nvidia drivers certainly do.
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Re: Cockpit instruments missing in 3d models

Postby hvengel » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:09 am

In most distros just installing a different video driver will handle everything. What you should look for is a package for installing the official driver from AMD for your video chip set. The 7790 should run FlightGear nicely if the driver doesn't have any OpenGL issues. AMD has been doing a lot of work on OpenGL support over the last few years so you have a high probability of ending up with a nice running system.
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Re: Cockpit instruments missing in 3d models

Postby Rene van Klaveren » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:17 am

Would this do the trick?

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=769312

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Re: Cockpit instruments missing in 3d models

Postby Rene van Klaveren » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:31 pm

Okay... Back from where I came from... Damn...

http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=2114e7d

Got the amd driver installed, and I see it back in flightgear.
Framerate looks good 35FPS, but instruments gone again... Please help me out here... (Frustrating)

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Re: Cockpit instruments missing in 3d models

Postby Hooray » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:42 pm

You obviously need the "ATI viewport hack", too.
Also, the "Compatibility Profile" part looks suspicious, I think we've had discussions related to this.
I'd suggest to run a forum search using those two strings and see what that brings up :D
Also, you startup log file would still be helpful.
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Re: Cockpit instruments missing in 3d models

Postby Rene van Klaveren » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:41 pm

The log file:

http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=9ca7fa9

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Re: Cockpit instruments missing in 3d models

Postby Hooray » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:46 pm

nope, not quite - please see my earlier posting, it's located in $FG_HOME (~/.fgfs) - and it's an actual file :D
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Re: Cockpit instruments missing in 3d models

Postby Rene van Klaveren » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:52 pm

To be honest to you, I'm getting so frustrated of this, that I just might go back mister Gates and run FSX.
I'm a little fed up with this configuration...

Everything is nicely installed, videocard works, OS (again, my first linux machine) is awesome, flightgear looks good, but can't get it running propperly...

So thanks for your support, got some thinking to do... :?:
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