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Postby wkitty42 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:39 pm

"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
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Re: it is dangerous out there... when in the wrong condition

Postby legoboyvdlp » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:11 pm

Oh help!
And I thought cockpit windows were tested with frozen chickens.
I guess a bunch of hailstones at 500kts are worse than frozen chickens
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Re: it is dangerous out there... when in the wrong condition

Postby HJ1AN » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:07 am

legoboyvdlp wrote in Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:11 pm:Oh help!
And I thought cockpit windows were tested with frozen chickens.
I guess a bunch of hailstones at 500kts are worse than frozen chickens


The windows (and engines) did the job.

Scary stuff, though.
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Postby legoboyvdlp » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:27 am

Yeah. But seriously, what must it have been like to be up there not knowing if the next moment the windshield will crack if a piece of hail hits a spot already weakened....
Scary
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Postby HJ1AN » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:35 am

Yea.

And I'm actually quite surprised that the windows to the side seem totally unscathed too. Surely the energy is deflected away, but I would expect even a glancing hit would also leave marks... so seems like the windows are far stronger than we think.. only those that took a direct hit would leave marks
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Re: it is dangerous out there... when in the wrong condition

Postby Johan G » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:46 am

:shock: Whoa! I would have quite some shaky legs for a day or two after a flight like that. :shock:

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Postby gsagostinho » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:49 am

Well, have you guys seen how the nose was looking?!?!

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Really scary stuff....
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Re: it is dangerous out there... when in the wrong condition

Postby simbambim » Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:25 am

legoboyvdlp wrote in Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:11 pm:And I thought cockpit windows were tested with frozen chickens.


Are you sure they're frozen? I always thought that was from an anecdote.
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Postby massima » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:10 pm

I'm so scared looking at those photos :shock: . Several years ago i watched a documentary and chickens weren't frozen, they fired chickens with a cannon against windshield.
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Re: it is dangerous out there... when in the wrong condition

Postby legoboyvdlp » Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:48 pm

Its on mythbusters, I think they passed it. They definetly shoot chickens from a cannon. Not sure about the frozen. I hope so.
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Postby Martien van der P. » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:47 pm

Found this video:

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Postby legoboyvdlp » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:57 pm

Busted.... hmmmm
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Postby simbambim » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:36 pm

Apparently they overturned it later.

http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2004/06/retu ... sters.html
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Re: it is dangerous out there... when in the wrong condition

Postby MIG29pilot » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:44 pm

Why chicken?


Gosh, imagine what people will see when they search my posts--"Why chicken?"!
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Re: it is dangerous out there... when in the wrong condition

Postby wkitty42 » Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:52 am

@mig29pilot: the test was for birds flying into the craft's vulnerable points...

@everyone else, i recently found out that the hailstones were reported to be softball sized... that's the size of a small to medium grapefruit... so larger than your fist and solid ice and impacting the craft at what? 400 to 500 knots? yeah, that's some severe kinetic energy... as for missing the side glass, i suspect that there were come glancing blows but not direct enough to cause damage more than maybe some scratches... there was another picture also showing a shot out of a wing window but i'm not sure what damage it was trying to show us... i'm really really surprised that the engines weren't damaged by softball sized solid ice chunks going into their intakes!
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