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No matter what I do I can't see other pilots

Postby Aaack55 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:52 am

Hello, I've been using FG for years and just recently i've been wanting to do some multiplayer sessions, (perhaps AI's names are boring :D )

In any case I've failed horribly and I'm out of ideas, here's my specs & info:

Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS 64-bit

FlightGear Version: 2017.3.1
SimGear Version: 2017.3.1
OpenSceneGraph Version: 3.2.1
Build Id: none
Build Number: 0
Revision: none

gl-vendor:NVIDIA Corporation
gl-version:4.5.0 NVIDIA 384.90
gl-renderer:GeForce GTX 1070/PCIe/SSE2
gl-shading-language-version:4.50 NVIDIA

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/usr/games/fgfs
  --fg-root=/usr/share/games/flightgear
  --fg-scenery=/home/REDACTED/.fgfs/TerraSync
  --terrasync-dir=/home/REDACTED/.fgfs/TerraSync
  --fg-aircraft=/home/REDACTED/.fgfs/Aircraft
  --airport=SAEZ
  --aircraft=707
  --console
  --disable-random-objects
  --disable-hud-3d
  --enable-auto-coordination
  --enable-horizon-effect
  --enable-distance-attenuation
  --enable-ai-models
  --disable-ai-traffic
  --enable-real-weather-fetch
  --enable-clouds3d
  --enable-fullscreen
  --prop:/sim/frame-rate-throttle-hz=60
  --prop:/sim/menubar/autovisibility/enabled=1
  --geometry=800x600
  --bpp=32
  --texture-filtering=8
  --enable-rembrandt
  --enable-terrasync
  --httpd=8080
  --callsign=Aaack55
  --multiplay=out,10,mpserver01.flightgear.org,5000
  --multiplay=in,10,,5000
  --enable-fgcom
  --prop:/sim/multiplay/txhost=mpserver01.flightgear.org
  --prop:/sim/multiplay/txport=5000


Also, I've registered my callsign "Aaack55" at https://fgtracker.ml/modules/fgtracker/ ... EGCALLSIGN.

So, here's my questions: I'm using FGRun to start FG, (it's comfy, don't hate me much), and reading other posts in this forum I saw there's basically two ways to start multiplay:

--prop:/sim/multiplay...
and
--multiplay=

I guess one is an older method than the other, which is the right one?
I've tested starting multiplay with either, both at the same time, none (starting it ingame directly) without success.

I've open the ports 5000 to 5100 upd and tcp and tried to use other ports unsuccessfully. No matter what I do I don't see myself in the tracker website nor I see a list of pilots in game.

Could you help me?

Thank you very much.-
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Re: No matter what I do I can't see other pilots

Postby PINTO » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:51 am

Heya,
If you want to connect using the '--' options, use this:
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--multiplay=out,10,mpserver01.flightgear.org,5000
--multiplay=in,10,,5001


Note how the "in" is 5001, not 5000 like you have. This should be all you need.
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Re: No matter what I do I can't see other pilots

Postby Aaack55 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:57 am

Thank you Pinto, I'll try that right now :D
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Re: No matter what I do I can't see other pilots

Postby Aaack55 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:04 am

Sadly that didn't work either, now my parameters (the relevant ones, the rest is identical to my OP) are:

--httpd=8080
--callsign=Aaack55
--multiplay=out,10,mpserver01.flightgear.org,5000
--multiplay=in,10,,5001
--enable-fgcom

But I still don't see myself in the tracker webpage nor see any pilot in the list ingame, alas I'm not sure if I don't see pilots because I'm starting in argentina and the rest of the pilots are mostly in europe...

Edit, checking the log I've also found these two errors:

Aircraft does not specify a minimum FG version: please add one at /sim/minimum-fg-version
Error: unrecognized flag --icu_case_mapping

I'm not sure if those are unrelated with the issue or not, either case it doesn't seems to break the fly session at all.
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Re: No matter what I do I can't see other pilots

Postby PINTO » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:54 am

You have to sign up for the tracker, it doesn't show all pilots by default.

Check http://mpmap02.flightgear.org to see if you show up.
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Re: No matter what I do I can't see other pilots

Postby Aaack55 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:15 am

Thanks for the quick answer man, I thought that registering my callsign allowed me to be tracked.
If I also have to sign up to the tracker itself that would explain why I'm not listed.
Could you tell me where do I register?
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Re: No matter what I do I can't see other pilots

Postby PINTO » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:08 am

Oh if you registered your callsign you should be okay. The only other thing i can think of is maybe you have a firewall blocking it, but I'm not sure what else the problem could be.
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Re: No matter what I do I can't see other pilots

Postby Aaack55 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:17 pm

Welp. I've been reading around and it's all bad news. It seems my ISP, Fibertel in Argentina actually blocks the port 5000 for it's own use, so I can't use it no matter what.
I'm not sure if i can use another port to connect to the flightgear servers, if not that's it for me.
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Re: No matter what I do I can't see other pilots

Postby drR0ckso » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:53 am

This is complex to address. Packets headed to udp port 4999 can be redirected to udp port 5000, but the reverse will not be true unless it runs as a separate server instance, or the server code is modified to support listening to multiple udp and tcp ports for the respective functions. The tracker will reject multiple connections from the same server IP address. What is best is if Fibertel provides a server in South America running on a non-standard port, then all the Fibertel users will be able to connect to the FG Multiplayer network by using a regionally specific command line.
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Re: No matter what I do I can't see other pilots

Postby Aaack55 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:07 am

Thanks for the info drR0ckso I think neither Fiber will use another port nor the server code will change.
I'll just use another flight simulator then. Thanks again!
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Re: No matter what I do I can't see other pilots

Postby drR0ckso » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:09 am

If you can find someone willing to host a VPS or server in South America without the port restriction that Fibertel has, it shouldn't be difficult to set another up and join it to the MP Network listening on a port other than 5000. Another idea is to approach Fibertel and see if they are willing to host a Flightgear server on a virtual machine, since no one in their network is able to use the public FGMS.
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