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Postby Robertfm » Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:43 am

I am coming across more and more Airports that have different airport data on the FG Map & Route Manager. Route Manager data seems to agree with other map sources like Sky Vector. Does FG Map get updated from independent sources like Sky Vector & others.
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Re: Route Manager & FG Maps

Postby D-ECHO » Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:46 am

FlightGear uses relatively old data pulled at the time from X-Plane (IIRC). This data is not updated regularly because this could cause conflicts with the (also relatively old) scenery.

Are you referring to one specific part of the navigation data, e.g. VORs, FIXes, RNAV Points or Airport positions?
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Re: Route Manager & FG Maps

Postby Hooray » Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:16 pm

Yes, FlightGear uses very outdated navigational data - whereas online sources (chart providers) use different data.

To solve this, you need to use the same underlying data source.

The most straightforward option would be to procedurally render our own charts using the map/atlas tools, and use those internally, without relying on 3rd party sources, and online services:


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Re: Route Manager & FG Maps

Postby Robertfm » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:14 pm

The point I was making was the FG MP Map has different runway data from Route Manager on occasions take LFOB as an example. My point about external resources were that they agreed with Route Manager. This extends again sometime to runway approach heading which can be up to 10 degrees different, the external source being correct.
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Re: Route Manager & FG Maps

Postby Hooray » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:34 pm

if this is specifically about the google maps based multiplayer map, that's yet another beast, but the underlying issue remains the same :D

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Re: Route Manager & FG Maps

Postby Robertfm » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:43 pm

So you recommend I don't use external sources for the correct information, even though it agrees with Route Manager, which is at odds with FG MPMap
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Re: Route Manager & FG Maps

Postby D-ECHO » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:47 pm

So in your first post the route manager didn't agree with external sources now it does... I'm confused
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Re: Route Manager & FG Maps

Postby Robertfm » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:51 pm

With respect I think you need to re-read it I said the opposite
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Re: Route Manager & FG Maps

Postby D-ECHO » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:59 pm

Ah you're right. Sorry ;)
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Re: Route Manager & FG Maps

Postby Robertfm » Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:11 pm

No worries
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Re: Route Manager & FG Maps

Postby Hooray » Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:50 pm

fundamentally, all you need to do is to drive mpmap using the same navdata - given that there is a built-in mongoose based httpd server, it would not seem that far-fetched to directly run mpmap via Phi - while fetching all navdata from fgfs via conventional ajax calls
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Re: Route Manager & FG Maps

Postby D-ECHO » Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:55 pm

Robert, what kind of navdata do you mean that is displayed on the mpmap? Or do you mean the satellite images?
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Re: Route Manager & FG Maps

Postby Robertfm » Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:01 pm

I understand what you are saying but have no ideal how to even attempt such a thing. I use Free Air Map which syncs with Route Manager and Phi so I get the data that shows up on that source which agrees with first dropdown map under equipment. FG MP Map is still useful for runway orientation before loading RM
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Re: Route Manager & FG Maps

Postby Robertfm » Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:03 pm

D-ECHO wrote in Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:55 pm:Robert, what kind of navdata do you mean that is displayed on the mpmap? Or do you mean the satellite images?
Runway numbers and runway headings.
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Re: Route Manager & FG Maps

Postby Hooray » Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:08 pm

There's a docker image to run your own mpmap, see: https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/mp ... ster/tree/

(I didn't realize that the mpmap now uses node.js, so the Phi option would not have worked "as is")
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