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Re: 1979 Piper Warrior

Postby Robertfm » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:28 pm

Thanks.
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Re: 1979 Piper Warrior

Postby legoboyvdlp » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:35 pm

I certainly made ALS lights so you might be looking at the wrong one there?

There should be a ALS landing light visible (a bright white spot under the propeller), easy way to tell if you have the right one?

The one with the ALS landing light (both illuminating the runway AND a white spot) should also have ALS navigation lights unless something changed.
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Re: 1979 Piper Warrior

Postby Robertfm » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:51 pm

legoboyvdlp wrote in Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:35 pm:I certainly made ALS lights so you might be looking at the wrong one there?

There should be a ALS landing light visible (a bright white spot under the propeller), easy way to tell if you have the right one?

The one with the ALS landing light (both illuminating the runway AND a white spot) should also have ALS navigation lights unless something changed.


We are not talking about your plane. I am referring to the 1979 Warrior by David Megginson sorry for the confusion but I deliberately didn't put it on the other thread.
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Re: 1979 Piper Warrior

Postby WoodSTokk » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:57 pm

The landing light is there, yes. But no ALS for all other lights.

PS: I mean procedural lights.
If you mean corona (animated as billboards), its also not there.
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Re: 1979 Piper Warrior

Postby wkitty42 » Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:36 pm

Robertfm wrote in Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:02 pm:It seems it's just shift %.

you've written this a couple of times, now... do you mean "shift 5" instead? there is no shifted "%" that i'm aware of ;)
"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
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Re: 1979 Piper Warrior

Postby Robertfm » Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:55 pm

Yes it is shift 5 for the % key as shown in Key Functions for the plane http://wiki.flightgear.org/Piper_Cherokee_Warrior_II
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Re: 1979 Piper Warrior

Postby wkitty42 » Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:42 pm

:thumbsup:
"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
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Re: 1979 Piper Warrior

Postby legoboyvdlp » Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:40 am

Ah, ok - sorry, missed that!
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Re: 1979 Piper Warrior

Postby Robertfm » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:08 pm

I am now experiencing the same 'ballooning' when switching off KAP 140 as is happening on the IDG PA28. Do both planes use the same AP code.
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Re: 1979 Piper Warrior

Postby D-ECHO » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:12 pm

No, they are not.
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Re: 1979 Piper Warrior

Postby Robertfm » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:16 pm

It's odd because I use KAP 140 on several other planes but they don't react in the same way. The only common factor with the two PA28 is the Garmin 196, although because there is no GPS link on the 1979 I don't actual activate it.
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Re: 1979 Piper Warrior

Postby wkitty42 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:48 pm

could you be seeing the effect of wind buffeting? do you have real weather (aka active weather) turned on?

i've had some real bouncing around in the c172p at times due to the weather...
"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
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Re: 1979 Piper Warrior

Postby legoboyvdlp » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:13 pm

It's almost like confirmation bias...
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Re: 1979 Piper Warrior

Postby Robertfm » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:19 pm

wkitty42 wrote in Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:48 pm:could you be seeing the effect of wind buffeting? do you have real weather (aka active weather) turned on?

i've had some real bouncing around in the c172p at times due to the weather...


It's not the wind, it happens every time regardless of wind strength. It is a serious ballooning like 1000 feet up then it's difficult to control when it finally comes down.
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Re: 1979 Piper Warrior

Postby wkitty42 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:39 pm

can you try this? before you turn off the KAP140, hit the '5' on your number pad to ensure the controls are centered and then turn off the device...

my thinking is that you've maybe gotten the controls uncentered and the KAP140 was compensating... when you turned it off, it returned its control of the surfaces to center and your control of the surfaces took over and off you went... depending on the craft, you might be able to hit the 'h' key and bring up the default system HUD which will show you where your controls are and if the system may be using the trim to compensate...
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