Board index FlightGear Support Flying

is it possible to carry other aircraft?

Controlling your aircraft, using the autopilot etc.

is it possible to carry other aircraft?

Postby pattyxe » Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:17 pm

is it possible to carry other aircraft because in other games you can carry the aircraft
just wanna know if it works :wink:
pattyxe
 
Posts: 6
Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:20 pm
Location: Germany
Callsign: P-BXS
Version: 2019.1.1
OS: Windows 10

Re: is it possible to carry other aircraft?

Postby pattyxe » Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:19 pm

i forgot to add if there is any addon that can do it
pattyxe
 
Posts: 6
Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:20 pm
Location: Germany
Callsign: P-BXS
Version: 2019.1.1
OS: Windows 10

Re: is it possible to carry other aircraft?

Postby wkitty42 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:15 pm

what do you mean "carry the craft"??

remember, FG is not a game... it is a simulator... if the craft devs have developed a method of one craft carrying another craft, then it may be available... an example might be the 747 carrying the shuttle... or a military craft carrying rockets that launch and fly... some craft have the ability to have what we call walkers in them... the walker is simply an animated 3D model of a person... these walkers can inspect the craft and some of them can even jump out of a craft and parachute to the ground... there are hang gliders as well...

PS: you can edit your posts at some point so you don't need to write a new one to add or correct something ;)
"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
User avatar
wkitty42
 
Posts: 5984
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:46 pm
Location: central NC, USA
Callsign: wk42
Version: git next
OS: Kubuntu 14.04.5

Re: is it possible to carry other aircraft?

Postby wlbragg » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:24 pm

Yes, it is possible and there are some aircraft already setup to do it in various manners.

Here is the AirCrane towing a dump truck on a long line and also towing a Piper Cub hard docked. In this instance the AirCrane recognizes the weight of the dump truck and strains to lift it at low power.

Image

Image

Some aircraft such as the Piper Cub can tow certain gliders for release at altitude when the glider has been set up to accommodate towing using multiplayer.

AI vehicles can be configured to tow user controlled aircraft in stand alone mode, not requiring MP.
Kansas(2-27-15)/Ohio/Midwest scenery development.
KEQA (2-27-15), 3AU, KRCP Airport Layout
Intel i5 3570K AMDRX480
User avatar
wlbragg
 
Posts: 5194
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:31 pm
Location: Kansas (Tornado Alley), USA
Callsign: WC2020
Version: next
OS: Win10/Linux/AMDRX480

Re: is it possible to carry other aircraft?

Postby Knüppelrührer » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:40 pm

Seriously cool. Amazing, what is possible in Flightgear.

Just some safety issues for the Piper Cub:

Never exceed speed J3: 76kn
Vne CH-54: 130kn
Knüppelrührer
 
Posts: 166
Joined: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:06 pm
Version: 2019.1.1
OS: ubuntu 18.04

Re: is it possible to carry other aircraft?

Postby Johan G » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:49 pm

Knüppelrührer wrote in Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:40 pm:Never exceed speed J3: 76kn
Vne CH-54: 130kn

Somehow it have never before crossed my mind that some aircraft have lower never exceed airspeed than some helicopters. Thanks!
Low-level flying — It's all fun and games till someone looses an engine. (Paraphrased from a YouTube video)
Improving the Dassault Mirage F1 (Wiki, Forum, GitLab. Work in slow progress)
Johan G
Moderator
 
Posts: 5546
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 5:33 pm
Location: Sweden
Callsign: SE-JG
IRC name: Johan_G
Version: 3.0.0
OS: Windows 7, 32 bit

Re: is it possible to carry other aircraft?

Postby wlbragg » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:33 pm

Shuttle hitching a ride on the "Shuttle Carrier".

Image
Kansas(2-27-15)/Ohio/Midwest scenery development.
KEQA (2-27-15), 3AU, KRCP Airport Layout
Intel i5 3570K AMDRX480
User avatar
wlbragg
 
Posts: 5194
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:31 pm
Location: Kansas (Tornado Alley), USA
Callsign: WC2020
Version: next
OS: Win10/Linux/AMDRX480

Re: is it possible to carry other aircraft?

Postby wlbragg » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:13 pm

Interior and exterior view of the "user controlled" ASK21 being towed by an AI Piper Cub. Can also be done in multi-player.

Image

Image

Released from Cub and turning back towards airport for landing.

Image
Kansas(2-27-15)/Ohio/Midwest scenery development.
KEQA (2-27-15), 3AU, KRCP Airport Layout
Intel i5 3570K AMDRX480
User avatar
wlbragg
 
Posts: 5194
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:31 pm
Location: Kansas (Tornado Alley), USA
Callsign: WC2020
Version: next
OS: Win10/Linux/AMDRX480

Re: is it possible to carry other aircraft?

Postby wkitty42 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:04 am

wlbragg wrote in Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:33 pm:Shuttle hitching a ride on the "Shuttle Carrier".

now release the clamps and let it do the glide test ;)

j/k! i think that part may need some more work to happen...

and here's a question, is that the same shuttle model as the flyable one is?
"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
User avatar
wkitty42
 
Posts: 5984
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:46 pm
Location: central NC, USA
Callsign: wk42
Version: git next
OS: Kubuntu 14.04.5

Re: is it possible to carry other aircraft?

Postby V12 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:56 am

On last 4 images very good looking scenery with fine tuned landclass textures. Is it on terrasync ? And where ?
Fly high, fly fast - fly Concorde !
User avatar
V12
 
Posts: 1665
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:27 pm
Location: LZIB
Callsign: BAWV12

Re: is it possible to carry other aircraft?

Postby Thorsten » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:07 am

now release the clamps and let it do the glide test



Image

Image

Image

It's actually implemented in a pretty clever way (predictive extraploation from a series of externally fed coordinates and real attachment forces at the struts holding it in place) - it's not rigged for MP because I don't do MP, but it should be relatively easy to do that.
Thorsten
 
Posts: 11374
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:33 am

Re: is it possible to carry other aircraft?

Postby wlbragg » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:52 pm

The choice to fly the Shuttle in this manner is one of the variant options in the standard Shuttle in FGADDON.

"NASA Space Shuttle in a free-flight test"


@V12 see my sig "Kansas" for scenery. It is custom scenery I made for the state of Kansas.

FYI: What I am currently using may be a variation of that scenery. I think the screenshots above are using the standard grassland texture and the Kansas custom scenery in sig has a custom texture for grassland.
Kansas(2-27-15)/Ohio/Midwest scenery development.
KEQA (2-27-15), 3AU, KRCP Airport Layout
Intel i5 3570K AMDRX480
User avatar
wlbragg
 
Posts: 5194
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:31 pm
Location: Kansas (Tornado Alley), USA
Callsign: WC2020
Version: next
OS: Win10/Linux/AMDRX480

Re: is it possible to carry other aircraft?

Postby V12 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:39 pm

Thx, will check.
Fly high, fly fast - fly Concorde !
User avatar
V12
 
Posts: 1665
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:27 pm
Location: LZIB
Callsign: BAWV12


Return to Flying

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests