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Re: Extra 500

Postby D-EKEW » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:30 pm

hi Fervi,

These problems have been solved already in our git repo, but I forgot to push them to the official flightgear repo last time a new FG version came out.
I will push them there soon to make sure they will be fixed in the next FG version.
Meanwhile you could use our git repo version if you want.

Thanks for reminding me,

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Re: Extra 500

Postby sambatchelar » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:52 am

Hello,

I have been having some trouble with the Extra500 also. When I start up in the Extra500 the IDF screens tend to get stuck saying Remain Stationary, okay to taxi in 1 second. I am using the gitlab version already btw.

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Re: Extra 500

Postby D-EKEW » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:30 am

Hi Sam,

That should be solved when you are using the latest git. Are you sure you are pointing flightgear to the correct folder?
You can check the extra500 version you are using by going to 'extra500 - about'. It should say 5.4.0 (which is a typo, it is actually version 5.2.0). Version 5.1.0 still has the failure.

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Re: Extra 500

Postby sambatchelar » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:17 pm

Hi Eric,

I have had a look in the about folder for the Extra 500 and I am using version 5.4.0 which you have said is the latest version. Is there anything you should do with the IDF screens when using autostart or should it all just be ready to go once auto start has completed?

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Re: Extra 500

Postby D-EKEW » Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:10 pm

The IFD-s take a bit longer to finish than the autostart. So you just have to wait (and do not move the aircraft).
In the extra500 - config dialog you can set the IFD realism to 'fast' to speed things up.

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Re: Extra 500

Postby fervi » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:45 pm

Forgive the refreshing of the thread :D

There is an add-on for Flightgear - Red Griffin ATC. In short, it is a simulation of ATC in FlightGear. For some reason it does not recognize the Extra 500 configuration, it displays a message:
"Warning: This aircraft's radio is unusable".

It seems to me that for some reason it cannot read the radio data in this aircraft (in many others there is no problem) and maybe you can solve this problem?
Extra 500:
https://gmclan.org/uploader/18941/20210 ... s_grim.png

Cessna 172p:
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Re: Extra 500

Postby D-EKEW » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:30 am

Hi Fervi,

Yes we are still using the (very) old radio implementation as the new one really had a big negative impact on my (very) old computer in relation to framerate. But since times (and my old computer) have moved on we can move to the new radios which will hopefully solve your problem.

I have created a branch 'next_comm2' on our git repo (see footer). Are you able to test if everything works correctly with RG ATC before I push it to the official FG repo?

thanks,

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Re: Extra 500

Postby tdammers » Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:04 am

Note btw. that uninstalling and reinstalling does absolutely nothing, the install just puts the same files back that the uninstall removed. If anything made a difference, it would have been deleting the aircraft-data file, which is where aircraft models store state that should be persisted between sessions. The fact that this file is left on your disk after an uninstall is by design - the idea is that you don't want to lose your persistent state when uninstalling or upgrading your aircraft models, so the installer will never touch that file.
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Re: Extra 500

Postby fervi » Mon Feb 01, 2021 2:29 pm

> I have created a branch 'next_comm2' on our git repo (see footer). Are you able to test if everything works correctly with RG ATC before I push it to the official FG repo?

Works!

However, I noticed another bug (by the way) - possibly caused by the new version of Flightgear (2020.3.6 - Linux). I am referring to the control column.

In Extra 500 (I've never seen it before) while the controls work correctly, the column in the cockpit works in 2 positions (graphically).
https://gmclan.org/uploader/18941/20210 ... s_grim.png
https://gmclan.org/uploader/18941/20210 ... s_grim.png
https://gmclan.org/uploader/18941/20210 ... s_grim.png
https://gmclan.org/uploader/18941/20210 ... s_grim.png
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Re: Extra 500

Postby D-EKEW » Mon Feb 01, 2021 2:55 pm

Good. I will push a new 500 version to the FG repo soon.

On the second issue: That is normal behavior when in 'force elevator control' mode (http://wiki.flightgear.org/Extra_EA-500/pitch_control).

When on the ground with no airspeed, the only (large) force is the pilot. With your pitch control (mouse, yoke whatever you are using) controlling the pilot force, the yoke will suddenly go fully forward or aft when going through the force equilibrium. Make sure to set the trim to Neutral and Push a little bit to keep some force on the nose wheel so it keeps effective in directional control while taking off.

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Re: Extra 500

Postby fervi » Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:35 pm

> On the second issue: That is normal behavior when in 'force elevator control' mode (http://wiki.flightgear.org/Extra_EA-500/pitch_control).

Didn't know, but yep - it works :D Thanks!
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Re: Extra 500

Postby fervi » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:03 pm

> Good. I will push a new 500 version to the FG repo soon.

Do you have plans to support new version of Flightgear? Because it's looks bugged on 2020.4.0

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Re: Extra 500

Postby D-EKEW » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:37 pm

I am aware of this, but it is a Flightgear regression so should be fixed there. It was noticed with other aircraft as well and reported on the mailing list some time ago. Wondering why it was not fixed yet...

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Re: Extra 500

Postby wkitty42 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:08 pm

D-EKEW wrote in Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:37 pm:I am aware of this, but it is a Flightgear regression so should be fixed there. It was noticed with other aircraft as well and reported on the mailing list some time ago.

what regression would that be?
"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
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Re: Extra 500

Postby WoodSTokk » Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:04 pm

I see some intruments are not positioned correctly.
Maybe some instruments wasn't located on 0/0/0 in the AC-file and now they are.
If you ask me, its better to reposition them in the aircraft.
Its much better if the instruments are located at 0/0/0. That makes placemant easier.

But i dont know for sure. I use allways local copies of instruments.
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