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Autostarting the Boeing 767

Postby kwanza » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:46 am

Does anyone know how to start the 767? It purports to have an "autostart" option but it does nothing at all. The "s" key does not work with this plane either. Using the overhead panel, I've only got as far as lighting the instruments but the engines won't start. I suspect that one of the xml files is broken. Could I copy the ones from 777 and overwrite similar files in the 767 directory?

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Re: Autostarting the Boeing 767

Postby it0uchpods » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:10 pm

No that won't work. Each aircraft is very different. There is an autostart under the 767-300 menu. Use that.

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Re: Autostarting the Boeing 767

Postby kwanza » Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:31 pm

The problem I have is the "autostart" feature in the 767 does not work. It does not even turn on the instrument lights - in other words, it does precisely nothing. I tried the startup procedure from the 757, but I only got a far as lighting the instruments. The engines never came to life. I suspect the version posted in the aircraft repository is broken. Does anyone have another working version, please?
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Re: Autostarting the Boeing 767

Postby legoboyvdlp » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:55 pm

Hi,
Is this from FGMEMBERS or did you download the 767 in the launcher? What 767 exactly do you have?
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Re: Autostarting the Boeing 767

Postby kwanza » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:06 pm

I downloaded all my aircraft directly from http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/ . I have two variants of this planes: 767-300 and 767-300ER. To be clear, I haven't modified anything and "autostart" works for other planes, e.g. the 757, 777. etc.
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Re: Autostarting the Boeing 767

Postby it0uchpods » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:21 pm

You should get the one from tikibar. It's most recently updated.

http://www.github.com/dogsaysmoo/767-300.git

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Re: Autostarting the Boeing 767

Postby kwanza » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:16 pm

I downloaded the "master" version from the git repository, but I find that it is actually 3 years old. Moreover, comparing the two packages, I can see that the version from the flightgear repository has additions to the 767-300-main.xml, 767-300ER-set.xml and 767-300-set.xml files. For instance:

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--- 767-300-master/767-300-main.xml     2016-09-04 00:02:37.000000000 +0100
+++ /usr/share/flightgear/Aircraft/767-300/767-300-main.xml     2018-10-22 15:52:19.000000000 +0100
@@ -25,6 +25,7 @@
                <position-z-m type="float"> -1.8</position-z-m>
                <jetway-hood-deg type="float">4</jetway-hood-deg>
            </door>
+           <fallback-model-index type="int">251</fallback-model-index>
         </model>
 
        <view n="0">


Does this mean that the git version removed these items?
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Re: Autostarting the Boeing 767

Postby kwanza » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:58 pm

In desperation, I tired a trick of changing the properties "running" and "started" to "true" in 767-300-main.xml:
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- <started type="bool">false</started>
+ <started type="bool">true</started>
- <running type="bool">false</running>
+ <running type="bool">true</running>


Even this hack cannot get the engines to run. Which makes me suspect that the model is completely broken. Has anyone ever got the 767 to work?
Or are there some other properties I need to hack?
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Re: Autostarting the Boeing 767

Postby legoboyvdlp » Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:16 pm

kwanza wrote in Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:16 pm:
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--- 767-300-master/767-300-main.xml     2016-09-04 00:02:37.000000000 +0100
+++ /usr/share/flightgear/Aircraft/767-300/767-300-main.xml     2018-10-22 15:52:19.000000000 +0100
@@ -25,6 +25,7 @@
                <position-z-m type="float"> -1.8</position-z-m>
                <jetway-hood-deg type="float">4</jetway-hood-deg>
            </door>
+           <fallback-model-index type="int">251</fallback-model-index>
         </model>
 
        <view n="0">


Does this mean that the git version removed these items?


All that is metadata added to the fgaddon version. The aircraft itself in terms of systems, model, etc should be identical.

Let me download the one you got and see if I can get it to work.
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Re: Autostarting the Boeing 767

Postby WoodSTokk » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:56 pm

kwanza wrote in Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:58 pm:Has anyone ever got the 767 to work?


Yes! I have try it yesterday and without help/tutorial/autostart i have settled to run the engines and have flown a airport round.
Aircraft is from FGaddon.

EDIT:
here is a startup tut 4 u
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1 ) switch on the battery
2 ) start the APU (the knob will automaticaly jump back to 'ON' and the light in the yellow circle will lit)
3 ) open the bleed air from the APU
4 ) turn on the generator from the APU
5 ) turn on the fuel pump for engine 2
6 ) spool up engine 2 (open the cut-off valve of engine 2 behind the thrust lever)
7 ) turn on the fuel pump for engine 1
8 ) spool up engine 1 (open the cut-off valve of engine 1 behind the thrust lever)

If both engines running fine:

activate the hydraulic systems, alternators, bleed air and packs of both engines

If all work nice:

deactivate the generator and bleed air of APU
shut off APU

DONE
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Re: Autostarting the Boeing 767

Postby legoboyvdlp » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:36 am

Hi,
I downloaded that 767 (the same one you have from the ftp link), and autostart worked fine:

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Re: Autostarting the Boeing 767

Postby kwanza » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:59 pm

Got it! The problem was in my installation of additional liveries which surprising mess up the planes. For the 767, it was the AMX-skyteam livery that was the cause of the problem. The lesson learnt is to avoid liveries like the plague.

Thanks everyone for the tips.
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Re: Autostarting the Boeing 767

Postby legoboyvdlp » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:12 pm

Installing liveries shouldn't damage the systems...?
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Re: Autostarting the Boeing 767

Postby wkitty42 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:08 pm

they can if they are more than just liveries ;)
"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
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Re: Autostarting the Boeing 767

Postby legoboyvdlp » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:29 pm

i downloaded the livery myself from liveries.flightgear.org and there is nothing unusual about it :?
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