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What is a good transition from the Cessna 172p ?

Postby Skwawkdeez » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:47 am

Doing good on the Cessna. What do you guys think i should do next ?
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Re: What is a good transition from the Cessna 172p ?

Postby stuart » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:49 am

Hi,

I think it depends on what type of virtual flying you are interested in doing.

If you're interested in flying larger aircraft and move up to the "Big Iron", I'd do the following progression:
  1. Cessna 182s - introduces constant speed prop, slightly heavier and faster. Perhaps learn some IFR flying as well?
  2. Piper SenecaII - introduces twin engines, more complex systems
  3. DeHavilland Twin Otter - turbo-prop
  4. A320/777/707 - multi-engined jets

If you're interested in historic warbirds:
  1. Piper Cub - introduction to tailwheel aircraft
  2. Stampe - slightly harder to handle tailwheel aircraft
  3. SpitfireII - more powerful, but still fairly simply
  4. P51d Mustang - more complex systems

If you're interested in military jets:
  1. PC-9M - Turboprop trainer. Introduce more complex systems (retractable undercarriage), much faster, turbo-prop.
  2. Alphajet - Faster again, jet.
  3. F-15C - full military fighter jet
  4. F-14b - carrier-capable jet.

I'm sure there are some other "pathways" as well.

If you take the time to really master each aircraft in turn you'll be a better pilot in the long-run, and you'll more closely mimic the progression that pilots make IRL. If you jump straight onto a 777 or Mustang from the 172 you'll likely struggle with the combination of more complicated systems and different handling characteristics all at once.

I should put this on the wiki somewhere. In fact, even better would be some sort of "choose-your-own-adventure" style map which would suggest another aircraft based on what you're flying at the moment and what kind of flying you like to do!

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Re: What is a good transition from the Cessna 172p ?

Postby Skwawkdeez » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:52 pm

Hey Stuart, thanks for the help! I like how that list is put together. I think i'll go ahead and run with it and start from there and see how it goes.

Should have probably mentioned this at first but my interest in doing flightgear is to progressively learn complex systems of different aircraft (mainly commercial ones, but also anything interesting) and just have fun flying

I am familiar with the fact that pilots IRL have a certain progression they go through. Since flight sims are for adventure as well as learning, I agree with you about going about this process of gradual progression in an "adventure-based" approach as opposed to something strictly academic.

btw sir, would you happen to know any good resource(s) for aeronautical charts (worldwide) and/or flight planning

Thanks again!!
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Re: What is a good transition from the Cessna 172p ?

Postby stuart » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:12 pm

Hi,

For VFR charts, https://skyvector.com/ is pretty useful.

BTW - no need to quote the entirety of the previous post - it's pretty obvious what you're replying to :).

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Re: What is a good transition from the Cessna 172p ?

Postby Skwawkdeez » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:56 pm

Sorry about that! :). Yeah, skyvector is cool!
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Re: What is a good transition from the Cessna 172p ?

Postby Oswald » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:43 pm

Hi Skwawkdeez,

an aircraft I'd like to recommend as twin after the C172p is the Cessna 337 Skymaster: Push/Pull Twin, well developed. Big advantage compared to Seneca II: High wing, you see more of your beautyful bush scenery in FG when you look out.

Another favorite of mine for faster flying with piston aircraft is the Piper Aerostar 700, if remember rightly I take legoboyvdlp's version from github https://github.com/FGMEMBERS/Aerostar-700 because the default version used to have no working flaps.

Trying out a lot and stick to favorites, that was and is my way.

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Re: What is a good transition from the Cessna 172p ?

Postby Skwawkdeez » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:59 am

Thanks Oswald! Will look into those.
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Re: What is a good transition from the Cessna 172p ?

Postby legoboyvdlp » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:55 pm

It's not my version... it's the patten version, which I recommend you get directly from Patten to be sure you have the latest update ;)

http://pattenflightgear.wifeo.com/aerostar700.php
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Re: What is a good transition from the Cessna 172p ?

Postby Oswald » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:28 pm

Yes, you're right. Thanks!
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Re: What is a good transition from the Cessna 172p ?

Postby Skwawkdeez » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:48 pm

Thanks for the info. Will look into that
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