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Re: Is There A Flight Manual or UPDATED Wiki Entry for New D

Postby wkitty42 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:47 am

hijacked?? really?? why would the originator not be monitoring it anyway?? there's a lot of information to be gained in topics with some drift in them... more specifically, what did you not like about the direct responses you were given?????
"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
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Re: Is There A Flight Manual or UPDATED Wiki Entry for New D

Postby sanhozay » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:20 am

Flight manual for the real aircraft:

http://learnandfly.com/download/De%20Ha ... 201985.pdf
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Re: Is There A Flight Manual or UPDATED Wiki Entry for New D

Postby jaxsin » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:52 am

Trennor_ wrote in Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:41 am:This thread has been hijacked and is no longer being monitored by the origionator. :evil:


Shame you won't be back, someone finally gave you what you wanted so bad, but the next person will surely appreciate Sanhoazy's link

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Re: Is There A Flight Manual or UPDATED Wiki Entry for New D

Postby someguy » Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:00 pm

FWIW, I can easily flip the Beaver onto its nose with uncontrolled braking, same as most other taildraggers. But I can also easily avoid it by applying brakes judiciously. Watch a few clips of bush plane short-landing contests, and you'll see how realistic this is.
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Expanded Checklist for DHC2 from the Origional Manual

Postby Trennor_ » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:33 pm

Okay, I came back. Someone sent me a copy of the 1972 DHC2 manual, and I took the liberty of cobbling together a "checklist" for it, but I suspect it's a bit "off" in places in regards to this model. More on that in a moment. Here's the checklist: I only expanded it from the origional provided with this model of the dhc2, and it "should work" (famous last words!) by simply pasting it into your dhc2/Systems/ dir:

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<!--dhc2 checklist modified & expanded by trennor -->
<PropertyList>
<checklist>
<title>Beaver Start-Up</title>
<item>
<name>Park Brake</name>
<value>ON</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Generator switch</name>
<value>ON</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Master Switch</name>
<value>ON</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Fuel Quantity</name>
<value>CHECK</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Altimeter / Clock</name>
<value>SET</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Light switches</name>
<value>AS REQUIRED</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Throttle</name>
<value>1/4 inch OPEN</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Prop Lever</name>
<value>INCREASE</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Mixture Lever</name>
<value>ALL WAY FORWARD</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Carb Heat</name>
<value>COLD</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Emergency Cutoff</name>
<value>OPEN</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Fuel Selector</name>
<value>Fullest Tank</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Wobble Pump Lever</name>
<value>Pump to bring fuel pressue to 5 PSI</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Magnetos</name>
<value>BOTH</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Starter </name>
<value>Hold on until ignition</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Directional Gyro</name>
<value>Set to match magnetic compass</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Wing Tank Selector</name>
<value>AS REQUIRED</value>
</item>
</checklist>]

<!-- PAGE BREAK -->

<checklist>
<title>Engine Warmup</title>
<item>
<name>Warm-up except in Tropics</name>
<value>10 minutes</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Throttle</name>
<value>1000 RPM</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Propellor lever</name>
<value>fully forward when oil pressure 50 psi</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Throttle Oil temp 100F/40C</name>
<value>1000 - 1400 rpm</value>
</item>
</checklist>

<!-- Page Break -->

<checklist>
<title>Before Take Off</title>
<item>
<name>Set Brakes</name>
<value>ON</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>All windows and doors</name>
<value>Closed</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Elevator Trim</name>
<value>Set for Takeoff</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Mixture Lever</name>
<value>AUTO RICH</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Propellor Lever</name>
<value>INCREASE RPM</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Fuel Selector</name>
<value>To desired tank position</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Directional gyro and Artificial Horizon</name>
<value>Uncaged and set</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Pitot heat</name>
<value>ON if necessary in cold weather</value>
<value>Or when icing conditions anticipated</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Carburator heat</name>
<value>COLD</value>
</item>
</checklist>

<!-- PAGE BREAK -->

<checklist>
<title>Take Off</title>
<item>
<name>Set Brakes</name>
<value>OFF</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Cylinder head temperature</name>
<value> Below 450F/230C</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Line Up</name>
<value>Take off runway</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Throttle</name>
<value>Maximum power</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Lift off airspeed</name>
<value>55 to 65 mph</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Climb</name>
<value>65 mph</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Reduce power at safe height</name>
<value>33.5 In.Hg 2200 rpm</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Slowly increase power</name>
<value>80 mph</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Re trim</name>
<value></value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Flaps at 500 feet</name>
<value>Flaps to CLIMB</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Best rate of Climb</name>
<value>2200 RPM</value>
<value>95 mph IAS</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Speed for best angle of climb</name>
<value>80 MPH</value>
</item>
</checklist>

<!-- PAGE BREAK -->
<checklist>
<title>Cruise</title>
<item>
<name>Flaps</name>
<value>Cruise</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Manifold Pressure</name>
<value>29.7 In.Hg or less</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Propeller Lever</name>
<value>2000 rpm or less</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Mixture Lever</name>
<value>AUTO LEAN</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Carburator mixture temp</name>
<value>40F (4C)</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Carburator heat ON if outside temp less than 42F/4C</name>
<value> </value>
</item>
</checklist>

<!-- PAGE BREAK -->
<checklist>
<title>Descent Approach Landing</title>
<item>
<name>DESCENT</name>
<value> </value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Reduce airspeed and power as required</name>
<value></value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Fuel Selector</name>
<value>Fullest Tank</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Instruments in correct ranges</name>
<value> </value>
</item>
<item>
<name>APPROACH</name>
<value> </value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Airspeed</name>
<value>90 mph IAS</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Propellor Lever</name>
<value>Increase RPM</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Mixture Lever</name>
<value>Auto Rich</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Flaps</name>
<value>Landing or as desired</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Slowly reduce approach speed</name>
<value>80 mph IAS</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Rate of descent</name>
<value>approximately 1000 fpm</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>LANDING</name>
<value></value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Trim</name>
<value>As required</value>
</item>
<item>
<name>To decrease rate of descent, increase power</name>
<value></value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Pull back gently on control column for three-point touch-down</name>
<value> </value>
</item>
<item>
<name>AFTER TOUCHDOWN</name>
<value></value>
</item>
<item>
<name>After touchdown hold column fully back</name>
<value></value>
</item>
<item>
<name>Use rudder and steerable tailwheel to maintain straight path</name>
<value></value>
</item>
<item>
<name>GENTLY apply wheel brakes as necessary to control landing run.</name>
<name>CAUTION: Do Not Brake Too Hard or aircraft will nose over and ground loop.</name>
<value></value>
</item>
</checklist>
</PropertyList>


On my model, I found during approaches of 80 mph (note: these are NOT knots,) the aircraft continually drifts either left or right over the threshold, so I suggest 90 mph and hold it very firmly. That seems fast for an STOL aircraft but it lands sweetly if I approach at 90 mph, 500 fpm descent, pull back a bit on the column and let the tail touch first. Wait for some of the speed to bleed off below 50 mph, hold the column back and don't touch the brakes until 20 mph, or the plane will try to nosedive over on you. Put the flaps up during the run in (an old pilot's tip I picked up last week) and that will help keep the plane from trying to tip over.

HOWEVER! I seem to have discovered more problems with this plane: it doesn't like flying over ocean waters; i.e. Twice on flights over the Pacific, along a coast line, once at Hawaii and again on Canada's BC coast, something happened with the engine. I'm cruising along about 140 mph, altitude around 3500 (low because of cloud ceiling and approaching an airport for landing,) something in the sim changes, there's a "bump" in the display, and the aircraft loses height. It just starts dropping out of the sky. Doesn't nose over or anything, it just "sinks" until it contacts the water, turtles, and you're now a statistic. Nothing you can do to regain height. The pitot heat and carb heat were both ON, as the temp hovered around 40F. I don't understand this behaviour. Over land, it's fine, it never does this. Though I have made other successful flights over water; perhaps they were shorter. This was after about thirty minutes in the air.

The wing tip tanks don't seem to work. Tried using them any number of times, according the the manual; they don't work. The won't transfer fuel either from Both or either of the individual settings using the switch on the bulkhead above the pilot's seat, into the front tank as the diagram on the manual suggests they should. Essentially you're hauling around an extra 200 pounds of gas you cannot use in flight. I therefore empty the wingtips, and add fuel to empty tank on start up, and at least I've got usable fuel.

Ideas? Can the devs comment? what's goin' on?
trennor - Just Another Armchair Pilot

Thanks to all who have helped in the past. One day I'll return the favour.
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Re: Is There A Flight Manual or UPDATED Wiki Entry for New D

Postby sanhozay » Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:21 am

The maintainer of the aircraft is Syd Adams and he is contactable via the developer mailing list.
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Re: Is There A Flight Manual or UPDATED Wiki Entry for New D

Postby asr » Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:52 pm

The old dhc2 was surely a difficult plane to land.

First reduce as much speed as possible by braking gently with the tail up, then pull the joke to lower the tail and keep it pulled while braking harder. Also lots of differential braking and rudder to prevent a spin.

Briefly tried the new dhc2, seemed even more delicate.
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Re: Is There A Flight Manual or UPDATED Wiki Entry for New D

Postby massima » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:32 am

Not sure if it is the right place but items in the menù for this plane "options" and "select livery" don't work.
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