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Frequent constant random crashes

Postby chrisb » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:37 am

Hi

Is anyone experiencing frequent constant random crashes?
I have no idea the cause as it happens in all aircraft I've tried
It happens with defaults and custom settings, running FG from command line and through FGrun
It even happens when stationary with the engines off
It sometimes when hiting a key other times when doing nothing, autopilot, paused, on ground in the background
There seems to be no time, it could crash after 1 minute or after an hour or at any time in between
At any location in the world.
But it always submits a bug report

Win7 64bt
i5-4440
8gb ram
GTX660
FGFS 3.0.0

If its a hardware bug its a very weird specific one particular to this games cause no other game crashes
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Re: Frequent constant random crashes

Postby f-ojac » Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:09 am

We miss the version of FG you installed.
Did you install FG 64 bits version?
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Re: Frequent constant random crashes

Postby Hooray » Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:38 pm

is the software or system crashing ?
have you tried: http://wiki.flightgear.org/Howto:Debugg ... ar_Crashes
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Re: Frequent constant random crashes

Postby chrisb » Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:04 pm

The software crashes the system is fine
The performance is always good.
It crashes at random places doing the same continuous trips KOAK to KSFO there is no consistent spot of area or action causing the random crashes
I'm using 64bit final stable binary 3.0.0
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Re: Frequent constant random crashes

Postby Hooray » Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:25 pm

is this specific to a certain aircraft/location or features you're using (i.e. route manager) ?
have you tried scaling down all your eye-candy settings to ensure that this is not related to resource shortage (CPU/RAM/VRAM)?
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Re: Frequent constant random crashes

Postby chrisb » Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:01 pm

I've tried different place round the world and have reduced eye-candy to sea tiles
Every time I checked resources wasnt a problem
I can leave from the same airport to the same destination and it literally will crash at random times from before I even start engines till after i land and take-off again.

Just tried a different plane, crashed just after takeoff
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Re: Frequent constant random crashes

Postby Hooray » Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:42 pm

you are on linux, right ? If so, could you please provide a gdb backtrace ?
That's the only reliable way to see what's going on unfortunately: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=22288&p=202494&hilit=backtrace#p202494
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Re: Frequent constant random crashes

Postby chrisb » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:36 pm

i use both
linux i only have 2.12.1 which works fine

its the windows 3.0.0 version that crashes
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Re: Frequent constant random crashes

Postby Hooray » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:40 pm

same computer ?
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Re: Frequent constant random crashes

Postby chrisb » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:41 pm

different
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Re: Frequent constant random crashes

Postby Hooray » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:46 pm

I'd suggest to increase the log level and inspect different log files - for the same of simplicity, you could come up with a flight plan and/or replay tape to more easily replicate a flight, and then use the "environment/time" menu to speed up the whole thing
On Windows, a crash report dialog should show up, too

If you can still reproduce the issue using the "minimal startup profile" mentioned above, that would help with troubleshooting quite a bit, because it should exclude several potential candidates
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Re: Frequent constant random crashes

Postby chrisb » Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:01 pm

i dont know how to do a flight plan or replay tape
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Re: Frequent constant random crashes

Postby Hooray » Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:09 pm

flight plan, open the route manager, add a few waypoints, save it.
flight recorder tape: open the replay dialog and save the whole thing
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Re: Frequent constant random crashes

Postby chrisb » Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:52 am

When it crashes it asks to send the report which I have been doing
I tried looking at the windows log files and they dont seem to explain much
Not sure about flight recorder as I have no idea what is the trigger as it crashes randomly, so if i play a recorded flight if the recording is long enough it may just randomly crash before the end of the recording
I'll look into using a flight plan..
EDIT: found a repeatable way to crash, loading a flight plan
I cant seem to find any error report in Windows
Increasing the debug level doesnt seem to show more information
The last line of the log when set to bulk just says.....

............ going to read flight plane from....
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Re: Frequent constant random crashes

Postby chrisb » Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:23 pm

It might be plane specific, I have played a few times with a 777 and it hasnt crashed yet
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