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Postby wkitty42 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:38 pm

these are how they appeared in my debug log... all i've done is grep them out and then sort and uniq them... the first one is apparently missing even the craft's name... no idea what schedule that might be in... i'm posting these here so that this missing performance data may be added where it is needed... i think we'll also see at least one craft is listed with two different names... case matters! ;)

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AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:330
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:350
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:An-140
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:An-148
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:An-24
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:An-26
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:An-28
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:AR1
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:AR8
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:b1900d
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:B1900D
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:beech200
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:Boeing_747-800F
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:c177
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:c310
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:centrair101
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:Cessna_208_Grand_Caravan
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:CitationBravo
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:CR1
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:CRJ7
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:CRJ9
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:CS1
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:CS3
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:CS300
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:DH2
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:EM2
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:Embraer_120
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:EMJ
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:F172N
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:J32
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:JS41
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:LET-410
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:Mi-8
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:Pilatus_PC-12
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:S20
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:SF3
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:SU9
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:Sukhoi_SSJ95
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:Tu-134
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:Tu-154
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:Tu-204F
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:Yak-40
AI-Traffic: schedule aircraft missing performance data:Yak-42
"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
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Re: AI Traffic craft missing performance data

Postby BecOzIcan » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:54 am

This is an ongoing cleaning exercise that I am taking care of., The errors are non blocking.

I am pushing an update for the 330 350 and 747 today. Won't touch the Antonov and Tupolev aircraft as most of them are linked to old traffic files which we are likely to delete soon (no longer operating)

I went through all traffic files some time ago to identify the "aircraft with no name" but couldn't find it. Maybe an AI ship of some sort ?

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Re: AI Traffic craft missing performance data

Postby wkitty42 » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:25 am

thanks for the feedback, ian... i figured there someone was keeping up with these but just wanted to make sure... by my count, there's 44 of them including the one with no name... i'm guessing you see/saw the two b1900d's? ;)
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"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
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Re: AI Traffic craft missing performance data

Postby BecOzIcan » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:53 pm

Yep
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Re: AI Traffic craft missing performance data

Postby gooneybird » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:50 pm

A while ago I started adding data for some GA aircraft to my local file but I've been though all my FG stuff this afternoon and can no longer find it, probably an old nightly that has since been deleted :(
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Re: AI Traffic craft missing performance data

Postby wkitty42 » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:14 pm

i'm hesitating as to whether it would be a GoodThing<tm> to find and enter this information for these craft or not... i would think "yes" because these craft models can be used by others and having the data means that someone else won't have to hunt it done later if/when these craft are used (again)...

with that said, if i wanted to do this, where is the file that i need to look at, please? i'm guessing they're all listed in one file but perhaps each craft has its own??

i've looked in the wiki but "performance database" redirects to something about doing VNAV stuff :(
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"Why not?" said Gurder.
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Re: AI Traffic craft missing performance data  

Postby BecOzIcan » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:34 am

The tag lives in each traffic file, look for <actype>XXX</actype> in each aircraft definition.

My approach so far has been to only create entries (or aliases) in the perf DB when recreating or re designing an AI aircraft. This is because we have been doing a lot of cleanup of traffic files for that past year with the help of Macin; We ensured that all updated traffic files only include IATA aircraft codes (with a match in the perf DB) so the number of errors decreaes automatically as we correct the traffic.

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Re: AI Traffic craft missing performance data

Postby gooneybird » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:25 am

wkitty42 wrote in Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:14 pm:where is the file that i need to look at, please? i'm guessing they're all listed in one file but perhaps each craft has its own??


data/AI/Aircraft/performancedb.xml

In the experiments I did with GA aircraft it did limit speed and altitude etc. regardless of what was in the traffic file.
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Re: AI Traffic craft missing performance data

Postby wkitty42 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:49 pm

ok, thanks guys!

@gooney, i should have seen that...

i've also got a few other AI related things that need fixing... i'm not sure if i should just list them somewhere or post their fixes in their own topic(s)... since you guys are the ones working on the AI craft, i have no problem getting the fixes to you for posting to FGData... at least two are typos with one of those requiring either to fix the xml containing the typo OR to rename the file the typo is pointing to... personally, i'd fix the xml and leave the file name as it is (in this one case) but i guess that's up to you guys...
"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
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Re: AI Traffic craft missing performance data

Postby BecOzIcan » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:54 pm

Send me the details like you did with the Qantas one and I ll cordinate fix.

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Re: AI Traffic craft missing performance data

Postby wkitty42 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:07 pm

ahhh... ok... i did do that, didn't i :)

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"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
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Re: AI Traffic craft missing performance data

Postby BecOzIcan » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:50 am

Received. Will look into it.

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Re: AI Traffic craft missing performance data

Postby wkitty42 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:02 am

ok... i've made all the listed changes (except the last two) here and so far, everything seems to be OK... i haven't done the last two because i've been busy chasing down what OSG commit has broken my FG... that and i have to dig into the other craft to figure out how to do a plain white "-default" craft livery like has been done with another of the AI craft...

FWIW: fixing the problems adds two more craft to the "missing performance data" list...
speaking of that, i think the one with the blank name is maybe an error in the code and nothing to do with the craft... i hope to dig into that in the near future, too...
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Re: AI Traffic craft missing performance data

Postby BecOzIcan » Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:26 am

Could not reply to your message as you are not set to receive PMs apparently.
I had a look at your list, below proposed resolution:

1. I will fix :
> MSR EgyptAir
> BBR Santa Barbara (Ceased operations in Jan2018 but not much traffic left in Maiquetia at this point)
> AAL American Eagle (Outdated Traffic File)
> FTR Finistair (o Livery, Outdated Traffic file)
> VOZ Virgin Australia Outdated Traffic file)

2. I will get rid of the traffic files for
RNAF (Private): no update since 2015, JetFighter aircrafts
TYA Nordstar : Their ATR flights are apparently not tracked, I cannot verify/rebuild the traffic file at this point. Will be re assessed later
JAF JetAirFly : Ceased operations, fleet now handled as TUI Belgium under code TUB

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Re: AI Traffic craft missing performance data

Postby gooneybird » Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:35 am

I found the data I used for the SAAB 2000 in the performance database.

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    <aircraft>
      <type>S20</type>
      <base>turboprop_transport</base>
     <climbrate-fpm>2250.0</climbrate-fpm>
     <takeoff-speed-kts>110.0</takeoff-speed-kts>
      <cruise-speed-kts>367.0</cruise-speed-kts>
     <approach-speed-kts>170.0</approach-speed-kts>
    </aircraft>
   <alias>
      <match>SAAB 2000</match>
      <match>Saab 2000</match>
      <match>SB20</match>
      <alias>S20</alias>
    </alias>


@wkiity42, I can add some more of the missing data when I find it or are you already working on it?
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