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Adjusting Sensitive Plane Movement

Postby Fwhilton » Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:54 pm

Hi, I am new to FlightGear.
I can successfully get off the ground 1 out of 3 tries.
I am using an XBox One controller.

Here are my issues/questions...

1) When I ramp up speed on the runway, I can keep it in the middle of the road.
But, when I lift off the plane always veers to the left. I understand the physics, but how to I stop that?
This leads to crashing the plane.

2) In the air, I can keep it steady, but if I move just a tiny bit to much the plane loses control, sometimes resulting in a crash.

Is there a way to tighten up the sensitivity on the plane and or controller??
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Re: Adjusting Sensitive Plane Movement

Postby wlbragg » Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:31 pm

Any particular aircraft? Different aircraft can behave totally different from one another.
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Re: Adjusting Sensitive Plane Movement

Postby Fwhilton » Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:40 pm

The default Cessna that comes with the initial install 2020.3.8
I am new and I have not added any mods or airplanes
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Re: Adjusting Sensitive Plane Movement

Postby wlbragg » Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:14 pm

On takeoff you need to counter the tork with right rudder. Once in the air"power" or speed is key. You have to maintain forward speed for there to be sufficient lift. Think about the airfoil and how lift is generated. If you find yourself falling right or left out of the air, your stalling because your going to slow.
Lift off smoothly and slowly, maintaining or increasing speed and you should be ok. Once you're in control of that initial pull to the left, it is all about
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Re: Adjusting Sensitive Plane Movement

Postby Fwhilton » Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:07 pm

I never said I was stalling.
I am doing everything you said. Adjust rudders and maintaining speed.

That is not the problem. Even doing all the right stuff, just one little movement sends the plane towards the ground.
Sometime I can recover, but most of the time I crash.
it is way to sensitive.

I tried X-Planes demo and that works perfect.
But, that is too expensive for a disabled 59 year old. Thus trying out Flight Gear
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Re: Adjusting Sensitive Plane Movement

Postby wlbragg » Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:50 am

If you think you're doing everything right and one small movement makes it crash, then either you're Xbox controller is too sensitive or you're not doing everything "just right". Sometimes a slight control input when on the verge of stalling can tip it over the edge. If you're in the c172p, there's nothing that needs to be adjusted on the aircraft itself, it's the way it's supposed to be. It's actually a fairly realistic model of the aircraft actual performance.
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Re: Adjusting Sensitive Plane Movement

Postby benih » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:26 am

I think it is the adjustment of the controller.

Or how fast are you going exactly when it happens?
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Re: Adjusting Sensitive Plane Movement

Postby Fwhilton » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:01 pm

I am going full speed. It mostly happens at take off when I am just about 20-50 feet off ground
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Re: Adjusting Sensitive Plane Movement

Postby benih » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:26 pm

What is the indicated airspeed at that moment?
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Re: Adjusting Sensitive Plane Movement

Postby Fwhilton » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:56 pm

I have no idea. Doesn't seem to work. Guage says 0
According to this thread its a bug that was supposedly fixed, but not on my version.
https://forum.flightgear.org/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=29863

Just downloaded FG a coupe days ago
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Re: Adjusting Sensitive Plane Movement

Postby Fwhilton » Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:13 pm

Well, I tried a different aircraft (Cessna 182S) and that was so much more stable.

So the issue seems to be that default cessna 172 air craft. ( i think they should use a more stable plane in the default app)
However, when I use that aircraft there is a woman constantly talking through the entire flight.
How do I shut her off?
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Re: Adjusting Sensitive Plane Movement

Postby wkitty42 » Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:19 pm

that topic is from 2016... there's been tons of changes since then... not only in FG but also in the FDMs and the craft...

but, yes, that airspeed gauge reading zero could be from a few different things... the pitot cover being in place, ice, or maybe something else we aren't yet aware of...

how are you starting the craft? manually or via the autostart option?
you might also need to use the in-sim F10 menu, click on the c172p menu, then Aircraft Options and toggle Enable Damage on and off... other options in there might also be of interest to you...
"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
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Re: Adjusting Sensitive Plane Movement

Postby wkitty42 » Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:21 pm

Fwhilton wrote in Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:13 pm:However, when I use that aircraft there is a woman constantly talking through the entire flight.
How do I shut her off?

change the radio frequency away from the ATIS channel...
"You get more air close to the ground," said Angalo. "I read that in a book. You get lots of air low down, and not much when you go up."
"Why not?" said Gurder.
"Dunno. It's frightened of heights, I guess."
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Re: Adjusting Sensitive Plane Movement

Postby Fwhilton » Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:47 pm

Found the way to turn off chatter.
It was the radio on CPanel
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Re: Adjusting Sensitive Plane Movement

Postby wlbragg » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:41 pm

If your not getting any indication in the ASI then obviously there is something wrong. You also can't judge what "full speed" is so a stall is not out of the question.

Well, I tried a different aircraft (Cessna 182S) and that was so much more stable.

Did the ASI work in this aircraft?

If you can post the log file, it may shed some light on the trouble. If you're not getting any ASI movement then this might be a bug.

Have you ever flown it successfully? Do all the other instruments function correctly? What about other functionality or aircraft systems, do they appear to work?

The log would be really helpful.
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