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Re: ATIS Volume

Postby danielHL » Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:41 am

Okay so it's really a problem that is occurring with the 3d-instrument of the radio? because in the UFO with only the radio back-end the same frequency is working...

I'm not up to speed: is it possible to fix the frequency in the apt.dat file for the current scenery?
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Re: ATIS Volume

Postby Robertfm » Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:36 pm

WoodSTokk I am using 2020.3.6 could it be the fix is not in this version. Is there a short code I can add in start up. What I have noticed is the volume(0) in Nav1 is no longer active by default even though I have the short code to do that.
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Re: ATIS Volume

Postby Robertfm » Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:06 pm

WoodSTokk wrote in Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:27 pm:No need for start-up code. D-ECHO has already pushed a update for the volume knob on the PA28 (in trunk). Will come alive in the evening.
With this update you can set the volume as normal with the knob on both radios.

I hear also sometimes a loud squelch for a split of a second (not allways). I think this is a problem in the sound buffer of the voice synthesis.
You can try to swap to another frequenzy, wait some seconds and than swap back.
The voice synthesis will be redone and (hopefully) the squelch is gone.
Nothing that can be fixed from a aircraft developer.

I have 'AI/MP' and 'Effects' set to 50%, all other slider are full.


I update PA28 however the volume is stiil only .6 in debug browser
Edit: ATIS not working EGGP
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Re: ATIS Volume

Postby WoodSTokk » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:28 am

danielHL wrote in Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:41 am:Okay so it's really a problem that is occurring with the 3d-instrument of the radio? because in the UFO with only the radio back-end the same frequency is working...

Not with the 3d instrument. Its a problem of the code that handles the 8.333kHz behavior.
The UFO use the old behavior (only 25kHz spacing)

danielHL wrote in Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:41 am:I'm not up to speed: is it possible to fix the frequency in the apt.dat file for the current scenery?

I think its a better way if FG check and correct the frequency before setting it.
123.12[0] is clearly invalid in 8.333kHz and 25kHz. If the frequency is invalid, it should add 0.005, so 123.12 becomes 123.125.
This is now a valid 25kHz frequency. The problem exist only for 'xxx.x2' and 'xxx.x7'.
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Re: ATIS Volume

Postby WoodSTokk » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:42 am

Robertfm wrote in Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:36 pm:WoodSTokk I am using 2020.3.6 could it be the fix is not in this version.

Maybe. I dont know.

Robertfm wrote in Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:36 pm:Is there a short code I can add in start up.

Not that im aware of.
The ATIS runs via sound synthesis into a sound buffer. This buffer will then be played.
The problem was that this playback was only wired up to the actual frequency.
If you turn of the radio, you hear the ATIS. If you set the volume to zero, you hear the ATIS.
Only way to turn the ATIS off was to change the frequency.
I dont know when it was fixed, but in FG2020.4 it is fixed.

Robertfm wrote in Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:36 pm:What I have noticed is the volume(0) in Nav1 is no longer active by default even though I have the short code to do that.

COMM radio has nothing to do with NAV radio.
As far as i know, the nav volume is per default set to 0. You can turn it up if you want. In the PA28 there is another knob below the NAV display for the NAV volume.

Robertfm wrote in Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:06 pm:I update PA28 however the volume is stiil only .6 in debug browser

And if you turn the knob?

Robertfm wrote in Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:06 pm:Edit: ATIS not working EGGP

Here it works. How does you set the frequency?
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Re: ATIS Volume

Postby Robertfm » Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:17 am

When i increase the volume with the radio button the volume increases but the volume in Debug/browser doesn't alter.
As for setting Atis I used both the presets in drop down menu, and when that didn't work I set the radio using the knobs. It makes no sense once I followed the advice given on here Thursday it worked but then didn't shut off, now it doesn't work.

The only thing I did was to switch off FG Thursday and switch it back on Friday and of course update the PA28 which should have permanently reset Debug volume but didn't.
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Re: ATIS Volume

Postby Robertfm » Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:43 pm

Update: ATIS worked in EGHH. However I discovered the following. After listening to it I put into standby. When I switch it to active however it doesn't. If I switch Comm 1 off then back on it works again and so on. Don't know whether that gives further insight.
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Re: ATIS Volume

Postby Robertfm » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:36 pm

Sunday Update: Departure airport EGLC ATIS switched on fine then switching to stand bye it kept going, only way to stop it was setting Volume in debug browser to 0. Switching off using radio control turns off Nav1.
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Re: ATIS Volume

Postby danielHL » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:56 pm

Well, for me this works on next / fgaddon trunk. ATIS at EGLC is audible, volume knob works, turning the radio off stops the message, switching frequencies disables/enables the message.
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Re: ATIS Volume

Postby Robertfm » Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:00 pm

fgaddon trunk has been mentioned several times. My system apparently is not trunk by the FG Cataloge Planes. How do I change this, more importantly why are there different set ups.
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Re: ATIS Volume

Postby danielHL » Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:04 pm

trunk is the bleeding-edge aircraft development repository and only works on development versions. Usually fixes first go there and are then backported to the stable branches of fgaddon for the fg-versions where possible. So you should get the fix, in time.
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Re: ATIS Volume

Postby Robertfm » Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:08 pm

Thanks I will just wait then. Who decides what gets uploaded to FG stable.
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Re: ATIS Volume

Postby wkitty42 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:52 pm

Robertfm wrote in Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:08 pm:Who decides what gets uploaded to FG stable.

the craft devs and their decision is based on several factors... eg: if a feature in the craft is using a new method in the sim that doesn't exist in older versions of the sim...
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Re: ATIS Volume

Postby Robertfm » Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:51 pm

Thanks, what happens in this case where various users have reported similar issues, which appear to have been corrected in previous versions but not in the latest
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Re: ATIS Volume

Postby danielHL » Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:02 pm

That is called a regression. And will be treated like any other bug. It may be a fix that works perfectly on trunk, gets backported to a release and there some issues show up. It's just perfectly normal that these things happen. The maintainer and the devs will fix this, provided they get proper bug reports with all the details and a way to reproduce this bug. It takes as long as it always takes: when it's done it's done.
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