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Re: Uncontrollable rudder on ground, and then intense left l

Postby wkitty42 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:13 pm

that's one of the things they are doing, yes... SEO like this gives SEO a very bad name...
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Re: Uncontrollable rudder on ground, and then intense left l

Postby tdammers » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:53 am

"SEO" is a f**'d up concept anyway, but this isn't even that - this isn't an "optimization", it's cheating. And because this isn't normal use of the forum, permission for this cannot be implied, and there hasn't been explicit permission, so this is actually a felony. It's also unethical on the search engine side; this is done in order to trick the search engine into producing *incorrect* results, by exploiting its heuristics (which, by necessity, aren't watertight - computers cannot actually understand web pages yet, they still have to fake it, and these links are crafted to create situations that break the heuristic).

Actual SEO isn't anything like that; done properly, SEO will focus on making the search engine's job as easy as possible, by providing abundant amounts of relevant meta-information, and structuring content accurately (e.g., headings should be marked up as headings, bolded things should actually be important, things should be tagged with the correct language, links should be marked up as links (not spans with an onclick attribute or such nonsense), there should be no hidden text, images should have a meaningful alt text, etc.). In other words, the best long-term SEO strategy is to make content that is actually good, present it in the most sensible way possible, and make it easy to navigate for humans and computers alike. And then you make it popular, so that people link to it a lot, from actual honest sources. SEO isn't about cheating the system, it's about cooperating with the system.
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Re: Uncontrollable rudder on ground, and then intense left l

Postby Johan G » Sat May 04, 2019 9:05 am

This!

Also:
tdammers wrote in Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:53 am:[...] done properly, SEO will focus on making the search engine's job as easy as possible, by providing abundant amounts of relevant meta-information, and structuring content accurately (e.g., headings should be marked up as headings, bolded things should actually be important, things should be tagged with the correct language, links should be marked up as links (not spans with an onclick attribute or such nonsense), there should be no hidden text, images should have a meaningful alt text, etc.). In other words, the best long-term SEO strategy is to make content that is actually good, present it in the most sensible way possible, and make it easy to navigate for humans and computers alike. And then you make it popular, so that people link to it a lot, from actual honest sources. SEO isn't about cheating the system, it's about cooperating with the system.

This is one of the reasons why good articles on the FlightGear wiki is a good idea and why interlinking between articles is a good thing. If the "What links here" page for an article is empty and the article title is not too obvious, you need a bit of luck finding that article (and you might not know that you need to read that article to grasp a subject). Currently there are 176 such "orphaned" pages on the wiki.[1]

[1] See [Wiki] Special:LonelyPages for an up to date list.
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Re: Uncontrollable rudder on ground, and then intense left l

Postby wlbragg » Sat May 04, 2019 4:41 pm

My only complaint about our wiki information is in finding it. Too many times I search relevant keywords and get nothing when I know it is there.
I'm grateful for all the work that went into grouping "like" information into the sidebar links section as once you find any one of those pages you pretty much have a link to all the relevant information right there in front of you.
We have great documentation in my opinion, it's just really hard for me to find at times.
That might be more my lack of understanding how to search the wiki though.
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Re: Uncontrollable rudder on ground, and then intense left l

Postby Alex H » Sat May 04, 2019 4:49 pm

wlbragg wrote in Sat May 04, 2019 4:41 pm:My only complaint about our wiki information is in finding it.
That might be more my lack of understanding how to search the wiki though.


You could use google to do it :D

Put this in your google search box

Site:www.flightgear.org search words
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Re: Uncontrollable rudder on ground, and then intense left l

Postby wlbragg » Sat May 04, 2019 7:08 pm

Put this in your google search box

Site:www.flightgear.org search words

I'll give that a try, thanks for the tip.
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