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Mac users, read this

Postby tat » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:11 am

Dear Mac users / developers

First, I've heard some users complaining "2.6 for Mac doesn't work," in facebook, or via email without detail info. Could you help me collect what is the cause of this issue?

I want to know the following things for reproducing the problem: - Mac model and OS version (e.g. MacBookPro 15"/nVidia GT330M/OS X 10.7.2) - FG version and revision (e.g. 2.6.0 r314M) - Command-line option (you can get this from Console.app. it looks like 2/20/12 1:16:59.744 PM [0x0-0x4a04a0].net.sourceforge.macflightgear: Starting fgfs.sh with --aircraft=A6M2-jsbsim --browser-app=open --prop:/sim/rendering/multi-sample-buffers=true --prop:/sim/rendering/multi-samples=2 - Crash dump (if available).

As I want to release the updater for fixing common issues in 2.6 ASAP, I want to have many info until the end of this week.

Second, I want to share with you the known issues on FG 2.6.0 for mac that I've collected so far.

#1) fgfs crashes with CitationX, 777-200ER, b1900d and any other Aircraft that add menu items. If an aircraft has Nasal/dialog.nas, it likely crashes when initializing subsystems. This is caused by my bad patch and is mac specific bug. :-( --> Fixed

#2) fgfs cannot handle --browser-app=open properly. Somehow preferences.xml overwrites the command-line option. --> Workaround made (patch for preferences.xml), Code level fix is needed.

#3) Random Vegetations give us the white squares instead of trees. (only on package for 10.5). --> under investigation.

#4) 3D clouds don't show up (only on package for 10.5). --> under investigation.

#5) Some aircraft's texture look broken with some integrated graphics chips (shutter-like or patch-work-ish). --> bad GPU OpenGL driver? (e.g. Intel HD Graphics), mainly happens with png textures, I guess. Changing png to rgb seems fixing this issue. it doesn't happen when using nVidia GT330M.

#6) integrated graphic chip (e.g. Intel HD Graphics) crashes fgfs during startup (some can survive with cockpit view) --> bad GPU OpenGL driver, I guess ( see the dump below)

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Thread 3 Crashed: 0 com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHDGraphicsGLDriver 0x05120480 glrReturnUnexpectedKillClient + 15 1 com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHDGraphicsGLDriver 0x0500d2c7 GhalInterface::getCommandBuffer(unsigned char**, unsigned char**, unsigned int*, unsigned int*) + 203 2 com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHDGraphicsGLDriver 0x050af495 GHAL3D::CPrivateCommandTransport::FlushCommandBuffer(GHAL3D::FLUSH_TYPE, unsigned char) + 341 3 com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHDGraphicsGLDriver 0x050af217 g575SubmitPacketsToken + 51 4 com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHDGraphicsGLDriver 0x051302e7 _ZL28GetNewVertexBufferFromKernelP17DataBufferManagerP13GLDContextRecm + 79 5 com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHDGraphicsGLDriver 0x051305b7 g575GetVertexBuffer + 243 6 com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHDGraphicsGLDriver 0x050af17a g575PrefetchPrimitiveBuffer + 49 7 com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHDGraphicsGLDriver 0x050af05c glrBeginPrimitiveBufferUseDataBuffer + 171 8 GLEngine 0x04f85225 gleFlushPrimitiveTCLFunc + 652 9 GLEngine 0x04f0064e gleDrawArraysOrElements_ListExecCore + 199 10 GLEngine 0x04ea1fd3 gleDrawArraysOrElementsOutOfLine_ListExec + 1074 11 GLEngine 0x04e9f1ad gleCallList + 125 12 libGL.dylib 0x92baf188 glCallList + 27 13 fgfs 0x0043f2f6 osg::Drawable::draw(osg::RenderInfo&) const + 202


This doesn't happen on major nVidia (e.g. GT330M) and some other AMD discrete chipsso far.

#7) Cocoa-osgviewer doesn't work properly on some Macs (2.6.0-RC2). Image inside window gets broken when resizing or when using menu. --> I dropped cocoa version and used Carbon version instead. but I want to know what isthe cause. It doesn't happen on my MBP15"/nVidiaGT330M/OS X 10.7.2

Thank you,

Tat
Last edited by tat on Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Mac users, read this

Postby CharlieTheNinth » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:58 am

Specs:
Mac OS X Lion 10.7.2
2.7 GHz Intel Core i5
4GB of RAM
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512 MB

FlightGear shows the start up screen, but never actually starts up with any aircraft. I haven't noticed any other issue yet. I hope this helps.
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Re: Mac users, read this

Postby someguy » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:19 pm

Tat, Advanced Weather is a bit fragile. FG quits about half the time when switching from Basic to Advanced at runtime. This did not happen in RC2. I haven't yet isolated the exact steps to reproduce the crash, but I wanted to let you know. I think you know my configuration.

OTOH, if I fly far away from other MP users and complex scenery, I often see 60 fps. Very nice!
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Re: Mac users, read this

Postby tat » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:22 pm

Thanks for the reports.

Are there any log messages or crash reports?
As far as I guess, the start up problems are basically two things (as I said on the first post):

#1) crash on a specific aircraft (e.g. CitationX, 777-200ER, etc) --> can be fixed on the next update.
#6) OpenGL GPU driver problem (way beyond my single core brain)

One thing I can help is to disable a certain HW OpenGL acceleration for each GPU that goes crash, but at least I need to have a Mac with such GPU,
or very precise debug log.

Anyway, I need a crash report on the #6 case.

For advanced weather things, I'll check it on my end since it's not well tested.
RC2 has Cocoa-based osgViewer (kinda GUI framework) but 2.6.0 has Carbon-based due to stability issue on some Macs.
Plus the menu structure (and its function) changed after RC2 release time (I don't recommend such change though)

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Re: Mac users, read this

Postby carlotonfdezv » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:11 pm

It crashes in most planes but not in all for example I downloaded the 777LR and try to run it but it crashed, then I downloaded the 747-8 and try it and it worked
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Re: Mac users, read this

Postby tat » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:52 pm

carlotonfdezv, your problem is #1 in my first post.

I made a quick-fix for #1 case, so give it a try.
A temporal updater is available. See below for the instruction and detail:
http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/fg ... -quick-fix

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Re: Mac users, read this

Postby lukey1558 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:53 pm

Macbook OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
nVidia GeForce 320M
FlightGear 2.6.0

The problem is it won't load the aircraft.
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Re: Mac users, read this

Postby Hawk » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:56 am

Hi! Thank you for your effort in helping us with these problems and keeping the Mac version of FG smooth and stable!

I have problem #1 (the Boeing 777-200ER that ships with FG causes fgfs to crash) and even after I installed your GUIUpdater.tar.gz patch it crashes. Other aircraft (e.g. Cessna 172P) work (excellently).

My Mac
24" (1920x1200) iMac from Mid-2008 - everymac.com
Model Identifier: iMac8,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed 2.8GHz
Number of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 6MB
Memory: 2GB
Bus Speed 1.07GHz

OS X version: 10.6.8 (always updated)

Graphics card
Chipset Model: ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 256MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x9583
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-B2250L-259
EFI Driver Version: 01.00.259

FlightGear version: 2.6.0 (314)

Command-line:
[0x0-0xad0ad].net.sourceforge.macflightgear[2018] Starting fgfs.sh with --timeofday=afternoon --disable-horizon-effect --disable-real-weather-fetch --disable-clouds3d --disable-ai-models --disable-clock-freeze --enable-hud-3d --disable-random-objects --disable-clouds --shading-flat --disable-textures --enable-fullscreen --geometry=1920x1200 --fog-disable --enable-terrasync --prop:/sim/terrasync/refresh-display=true --airport=KLSV --aircraft=777-200ER --browser-app=open

There are also a few other messages from FG in Console.app. This is the full sequence of messages that appear, including again the one above:
Code: Select all
21/02/2012 00:48:33   [0x0-0xad0ad].net.sourceforge.macflightgear[2018]   /Applications/FlightGear.app/Contents/Resources/FlightGearController.rb:47:in `initialize': Ruby threads cannot be used in RubyCocoa without patches to the Ruby interpreter
21/02/2012 00:48:33   [0x0-0xad0ad].net.sourceforge.macflightgear[2018]   Exiting fgfs.sh
21/02/2012 00:48:33   [0x0-0xad0ad].net.sourceforge.macflightgear[2018]   Starting fgfs.sh with --timeofday=afternoon --disable-horizon-effect --disable-real-weather-fetch --disable-clouds3d --disable-ai-models --disable-clock-freeze --enable-hud-3d --disable-random-objects --disable-clouds --shading-flat --disable-textures --enable-fullscreen --geometry=1920x1200 --fog-disable --enable-terrasync --prop:/sim/terrasync/refresh-display=true --airport=KLSV --aircraft=777-200ER --browser-app=open
21/02/2012 00:48:33   [0x0-0xad0ad].net.sourceforge.macflightgear[2018]   shell: current dir: /Applications/FlightGear.app/Contents/Resources


Crash dump:
Code: Select all
Process:         fgfs [2111]
Path:            /Applications/FlightGear.app/Contents/Resources/fgfs
Identifier:      fgfs
Version:         ??? (???)
Code Type:       X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  FlightGear [2018]

Date/Time:       2012-02-21 00:49:12.666 +0000
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)
Report Version:  6

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x000000000000001f
Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   ???                              0x0000001f 0 + 31
1   PLIB                             0x011660bf puInterface::~puInterface() + 89
2   PLIB                             0x01167265 puMenuBar::~puMenuBar() + 31
3   fgfs                             0x0011c79e FGPUIMenuBar::init() + 32
4   fgfs                             0x0011ef52 NewGUI::reset(bool) + 296
5   fgfs                             0x0011e285 NewGUI::redraw() + 25
6   fgfs                             0x00018f1e do_gui_redraw(SGPropertyNode const*) + 46
7   fgfs                             0x0056f7ea SGCommandMgr::execute(std::string const&, SGPropertyNode const*) const + 58
8   fgfs                             0x002a6a84 f_fgcommand(Context*, naRef, int, naRef*) + 340
9   fgfs                             0x0050f5f5 setupFuncall + 277
10  fgfs                             0x005118dd run + 7741
11  fgfs                             0x00512050 naCall + 592
12  fgfs                             0x002a88e0 FGNasalSys::call(naRef, int, naRef*, naRef) + 104
13  fgfs                             0x002a8bed FGNasalSys::createModule(char const*, char const*, char const*, int, SGPropertyNode const*, int, naRef*) + 317
14  fgfs                             0x002a92bb FGNasalSys::loadModule(SGPath, char const*) + 549
15  fgfs                             0x002a98a8 FGNasalSys::loadPropertyScripts(SGPropertyNode*) + 668
16  fgfs                             0x002a7ddb FGNasalSys::init() + 2441
17  fgfs                             0x0001eaa1 fgInitSubsystems() + 3873
18  fgfs                             0x0003893e fgIdleFunction() + 2302
19  fgfs                             0x0002a029 fgOSMainLoop() + 121
20  fgfs                             0x00037fdc fgMainInit(int, char**) + 604
21  fgfs                             0x0001889e main + 286
22  fgfs                             0x00008e55 start + 53

Thread 1:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0   libSystem.B.dylib                0x9406d382 kevent + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib                0x9406da9c _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 215
2   libSystem.B.dylib                0x9406cf59 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 163
3   libSystem.B.dylib                0x9406ccfe _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 240
4   libSystem.B.dylib                0x9406c781 _pthread_wqthread + 390
5   libSystem.B.dylib                0x9406c5c6 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 2:
0   libSystem.B.dylib                0x94065ac6 select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10
1   libneon.27.dylib                 0x01724548 raw_poll + 256
2   libneon.27.dylib                 0x0172457b readable_raw + 22
3   libneon.27.dylib                 0x01724d7f read_raw + 33
4   libneon.27.dylib                 0x01724cc1 ne_sock_readline + 122
5   libneon.27.dylib                 0x0171f2be send_request + 1796
6   libneon.27.dylib                 0x0171e3fa ne_begin_request + 502
7   libneon.27.dylib                 0x0171eb3c ne_request_dispatch + 32
8   libsvn_ra_neon-1.0.dylib         0x0170e5e1 svn_ra_neon__request_dispatch + 476
9   libsvn_ra_neon-1.0.dylib         0x0170f5fd svn_ra_neon__parsed_request + 461
10  libsvn_ra_neon-1.0.dylib         0x017093cc svn_ra_neon__get_props + 524
11  libsvn_ra_neon-1.0.dylib         0x01709460 svn_ra_neon__get_props_resource + 121
12  libsvn_ra_neon-1.0.dylib         0x01709558 svn_ra_neon__get_starting_props + 70
13  libsvn_ra_neon-1.0.dylib         0x017096cb svn_ra_neon__search_for_starting_props + 220
14  libsvn_ra_neon-1.0.dylib         0x01709aed svn_ra_neon__get_baseline_props + 106
15  libsvn_ra_neon-1.0.dylib         0x01709d18 svn_ra_neon__get_baseline_info + 77
16  libsvn_ra_neon-1.0.dylib         0x01701656 svn_ra_neon__get_latest_revnum + 79
17  libsvn_client-1.0.dylib          0x015d42fc svn_client__get_revision_number + 160
18  libsvn_client-1.0.dylib          0x015d1cb4 svn_client__repos_locations + 575
19  libsvn_client-1.0.dylib          0x015d212a svn_client__ra_session_from_path + 407
20  libsvn_client-1.0.dylib          0x015ac592 svn_client__checkout_internal + 500
21  libsvn_client-1.0.dylib          0x015b6afd svn_client_checkout3 + 96
22  fgfs                             0x004227a5 simgear::SGTerraSync::SvnThread::syncTreeInternal(char const*) + 577
23  fgfs                             0x00422b87 simgear::SGTerraSync::SvnThread::syncTree(char const*, bool&) + 303
24  fgfs                             0x00422d6e simgear::SGTerraSync::SvnThread::run() + 384
25  fgfs                             0x0058f1f1 SGThread::PrivateData::start_routine(void*) + 17
26  libSystem.B.dylib                0x94074259 _pthread_start + 345
27  libSystem.B.dylib                0x940740de thread_start + 34

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
  eax: 0x1fda9110  ebx: 0x25e430e0  ecx: 0x1fdafc4b  edx: 0x085e4400
  edi: 0x00000000  esi: 0x0115edcd  ebp: 0xbfffea98  esp: 0xbfffea7c
   ss: 0x0000001f  efl: 0x00010202  eip: 0x0000001f   cs: 0x00000017
   ds: 0x0000001f   es: 0x0000001f   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x00000037
  cr2: 0x0000001f

Binary Images:
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  0x950000 -   0x995fef +  () <5B663133-9909-3CBE-84B3-F4208A3E7A93> /Applications/FlightGear.app/Contents/Frameworks/osgText.framework/Versions/90/osgText
  0x9af000 -   0xa1eff7 +  () <522C15CD-AF16-396C-91D7-A57350D41EE0> /Applications/FlightGear.app/Contents/Frameworks/osgSim.framework/Versions/90/osgSim
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  0xbba000 -   0xcedfef +  () <D8849A1D-4865-3B4B-B518-B5BF19B825A2> /Applications/FlightGear.app/Contents/Frameworks/osgUtil.framework/Versions/90/osgUtil
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  0xe8f000 -  0x1091feb +  () <8A902D9B-23DB-3639-B7D8-62951C05A955> /Applications/FlightGear.app/Contents/Frameworks/osg.framework/Versions/90/osg
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 0x113b000 -  0x122afff +PLIB 1.8.5 (compatibility 1.8.5) <43541ED9-0BD9-33E3-9395-BE94C9723507> /Applications/FlightGear.app/Contents/Frameworks/PLIB.framework/Versions/A/PLIB
 0x1545000 -  0x1548ff7 +com.yourcompany.ALUT 1.0 (1) <DE81301B-09EE-3202-F0C9-7A0A6C5D327B> /Applications/FlightGear.app/Contents/Frameworks/ALUT.framework/Versions/A/ALUT
 0x154e000 -  0x1577fff  com.apple.audio.OpenAL 1.4 (1.4) <CDC6D2B8-3DCA-E511-2250-75567E4C94BD> /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/Versions/A/OpenAL
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 0x15a8000 -  0x15daff7  libsvn_client-1.0.dylib ??? (???) <1722686A-8060-0707-A40A-D5A5A643DC16> /usr/lib/libsvn_client-1.0.dylib
 0x15e7000 -  0x1617fe7  libsvn_subr-1.0.dylib ??? (???) <F2FB890D-5EF8-3EC7-4AEA-A60110DB8A0C> /usr/lib/libsvn_subr-1.0.dylib
 0x1627000 -  0x162cff7  libsvn_ra-1.0.dylib ??? (???) <4813BBCE-F0A6-0B1B-7A27-6C397D9EAC7B> /usr/lib/libsvn_ra-1.0.dylib
 0x1632000 -  0x1666ff7  libsvn_wc-1.0.dylib ??? (???) <C29CA68C-F8A8-5546-EB26-FE57F56137CC> /usr/lib/libsvn_wc-1.0.dylib
 0x1672000 -  0x1678ff7  libsvn_delta-1.0.dylib ??? (???) <5F3B4DE1-BC18-8D81-BED5-1FAA47A7DBA5> /usr/lib/libsvn_delta-1.0.dylib
 0x167d000 -  0x1684ff7  libsvn_diff-1.0.dylib ??? (???) <966A6169-555C-71BD-412A-776D30518A5D> /usr/lib/libsvn_diff-1.0.dylib
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Re: Mac users, read this

Postby tat » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:51 am

Thanks hawk for the very detail report.
That's what I really want.

The crash dump says the updater is not properly applied. any error message you saw while installing the updater?
Anyway, please apply the updater again and see what happens.

If the second install doesn't help, then try download and install the fgfs available from:
http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/wp ... 2.6.0/fgfs

This time you need to open the Resources folder under FlightGear.app.
Use Advanced Features >> Others >> Open data folder
and then Ctrl-click the "data" on the Finder window title and select "Resources" from the drop-down list.
(alternatively, you can choose "column view" and go one folder up from data. that's the Resources folder).
Then, drag & drop the downloaded fgfs to Resources folder and replace the old one.

Pressing "start flight" will use the new fgfs.

Hope this helps,

tat

p.s.
I re-uploaded the updater and fgfs. these had a redundant debug symbols so I got rid of these. smaller package is always good.
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Re: Mac users, read this

Postby PanAm » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:07 pm

This may seem like nonsense... but after installing the new MAC 2.6 release (with the fgfs patch) I still found the performance "choppy", even after adjusting the quality/performance slider. So I went back to reinstalling the "RC2" version, and to my surprise, works better than it ever did before?? I believe the problem with the new 2.6 release is somewhere within the "scenery". For now, I'm staying with my "improved" RC2 version.
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Re: Mac users, read this

Postby tomb97 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:56 pm

Hi i have enjoyed the new update how ever my beechcraft b1900d no longer works and just crashes the game. here is the crash information.

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Process:         fgfs [492]
Path:            /Users/USER/Desktop/FlightGear.app/Contents/Resources/fgfs
Identifier:      fgfs
Version:         ??? (???)
Code Type:       X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  FlightGear [387]

Date/Time:       2012-02-21 16:18:45.051 +0000
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.7.3 (11D50)
Report Version:  9

Interval Since Last Report:          37466 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:           4
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   4
Anonymous UUID:                      37C3AA97-39AE-49D1-ADEB-075BDD8906B7

Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000004

VM Regions Near 0x4:
--> __PAGEZERO             0000000000000000-0000000000001000 [    4K] ---/--- SM=NUL  /Users/USER/Desktop/FlightGear.app/Contents/Resources/fgfs
    __TEXT                 0000000000001000-0000000000782000 [ 7684K] r-x/rwx SM=COW  /Users/USER/Desktop/FlightGear.app/Contents/Resources/fgfs

Application Specific Information:
objc[492]: garbage collection is OFF

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   fgfs                             0x0011c10c FGPUIMenuBar::destroy_menubar() + 606
1   fgfs                             0x0011c638 FGPUIMenuBar::make_menubar(SGPropertyNode*) + 26
2   fgfs                             0x0011c7c0 FGPUIMenuBar::init() + 66
3   fgfs                             0x0011ef52 NewGUI::reset(bool) + 296
4   fgfs                             0x0011e285 NewGUI::redraw() + 25
5   fgfs                             0x00018f1e _ZL13do_gui_redrawPK14SGPropertyNode + 46
6   fgfs                             0x0056f7ea SGCommandMgr::execute(std::string const&, SGPropertyNode const*) const + 58
7   fgfs                             0x002a6a84 _ZL11f_fgcommandP7Context5naRefiPS1_ + 340
8   fgfs                             0x0050f5f5 setupFuncall + 277
9   fgfs                             0x005118dd run + 7741
10  fgfs                             0x00512050 naCall + 592
11  fgfs                             0x002a88e0 FGNasalSys::call(naRef, int, naRef*, naRef) + 104
12  fgfs                             0x002a8bed FGNasalSys::createModule(char const*, char const*, char const*, int, SGPropertyNode const*, int, naRef*) + 317
13  fgfs                             0x002a92bb FGNasalSys::loadModule(SGPath, char const*) + 549
14  fgfs                             0x002a98a8 FGNasalSys::loadPropertyScripts(SGPropertyNode*) + 668
15  fgfs                             0x002a7ddb FGNasalSys::init() + 2441
16  fgfs                             0x0001eaa1 fgInitSubsystems() + 3873
17  fgfs                             0x0003893e _ZL14fgIdleFunctionv + 2302
18  fgfs                             0x0002a029 fgOSMainLoop() + 121
19  fgfs                             0x00037fdc fgMainInit(int, char**) + 604
20  fgfs                             0x0001889e main + 286
21  fgfs                             0x00008e55 start + 53

Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib           0x98fab90a kevent + 10
1   libdispatch.dylib                0x99c91c58 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 969
2   libdispatch.dylib                0x99c906a7 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 53

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
  eax: 0x0fecb930  ebx: 0x00000000  ecx: 0x00000000  edx: 0x00799301
  edi: 0x0fecb990  esi: 0x0f26ee90  ebp: 0xbfffefa8  esp: 0xbfffef70
   ss: 0x00000023  efl: 0x00010206  eip: 0x0011c10c   cs: 0x0000001b
   ds: 0x00000023   es: 0x00000023   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x0000000f
  cr2: 0x00000004
Logical CPU: 1

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0x96cb0000 - 0x96cb0fff  com.apple.Cocoa (6.6 - ???) <5FAFE73E-6AF5-3D09-9191-0BDC8C6875CB> /System/Library/Frameworks/Cocoa.framework/Versions/A/Cocoa
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0x96daa000 - 0x97425fe5  com.apple.CoreAUC (6.11.04 - 6.11.04) <B06D52C9-9F59-3EF2-B2BA-11E93C573572> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreAUC.framework/Versions/A/CoreAUC
0x97426000 - 0x974fcaab  libobjc.A.dylib (228.0.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <2E272DCA-38A0-3530-BBF4-47AE678D20D4> /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
0x974fd000 - 0x9755affb  com.apple.htmlrendering (76 - 1.1.4) <409EF0CB-2997-369A-9326-BE12436B9EE1> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HTMLRendering.framework/Versions/A/HTMLRendering
0x9755b000 - 0x9759cff7  com.apple.CoreMedia (1.0 - 705.61) <75CC7ECC-8D62-3BA3-BD9B-D5E7FA82EC2D> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreMedia.framework/Versions/A/CoreMedia
0x975a8000 - 0x976b8fe7  libsqlite3.dylib (9.6.0 - compatibility 9.0.0) <34E1E3CC-7B6A-3B37-8D07-1258D11E16CB> /usr/lib/libsqlite3.dylib
0x976b9000 - 0x97975ff3  com.apple.security (7.0 - 55110) <2F4FCD65-2A30-3330-99DE-91FE1F78B9FB> /System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/Security
0x97a6e000 - 0x97a99fff  com.apple.GSS (2.1 - 2.0) <DA24E4F9-F9D4-3CDB-89E4-6EAA7A9F6005> /System/Library/Frameworks/GSS.framework/Versions/A/GSS
0x97b29000 - 0x97b69ff7  libauto.dylib (??? - ???) <984C81BE-FA1C-3228-8F7E-2965E7E5EB85> /usr/lib/libauto.dylib
0x97bae000 - 0x97bbeff7  libCRFSuite.dylib (??? - ???) <94E040D2-2769-359A-A21B-DB85FCB73BDC> /usr/lib/libCRFSuite.dylib
0x97bbf000 - 0x97db4ff7  com.apple.CoreData (104.1 - 358.13) <EB02DCA7-DB2A-32DD-B49E-ECE54D078610> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreData.framework/Versions/A/CoreData
0x97e18000 - 0x97e3dff9  libJPEG.dylib (??? - ???) <743578F6-8C0C-39CC-9F15-3A01E1616EAE> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libJPEG.dylib
0x9821f000 - 0x9823cfff  libresolv.9.dylib (46.1.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <2870320A-28DA-3B44-9D82-D56E0036F6BB> /usr/lib/libresolv.9.dylib
0x9823d000 - 0x98248ff3  libCSync.A.dylib (600.0.0 - compatibility 64.0.0) <DD0529E3-9D71-37B6-9EB8-D7747B2B12C6> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libCSync.A.dylib
0x9838f000 - 0x98390ff7  libquarantine.dylib (36.2.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <3F974196-FBAD-3DBD-8ED0-DC16C2B3526B> /usr/lib/system/libquarantine.dylib
0x98391000 - 0x983f6ff7  libvDSP.dylib (325.4.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <4B4B32D2-4F66-3B0D-BD61-FA8429FF8507> /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libvDSP.dylib
0x983f7000 - 0x9840affb  com.apple.MultitouchSupport.framework (220.62.1 - 220.62.1) <3D94520B-C976-370F-AF56-278002BCF11D> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MultitouchSupport.framework/Versions/A/MultitouchSupport
0x9840b000 - 0x984affff  com.apple.QD (3.40 - ???) <3881BEC6-0908-3073-BA44-346356E1CDF9> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD
0x9890e000 - 0x9897dfff  com.apple.Heimdal (2.1 - 2.0) <BCF7C3F1-23BE-315A-BBB6-5F01C79CF626> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Heimdal.framework/Versions/A/Heimdal
0x9897e000 - 0x98981ff9  libCGXType.A.dylib (600.0.0 - compatibility 64.0.0) <E06426D8-CC01-3754-B5B3-D15CBA5C8D73> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libCGXType.A.dylib
0x98982000 - 0x98982fff  com.apple.Accelerate.vecLib (3.7 - vecLib 3.7) <22997C20-BEB7-301D-86C5-5BFB3B06D212> /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/vecLib
0x98983000 - 0x9898bff5  libcopyfile.dylib (85.1.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <BB0C7B49-600F-3551-A460-B7E36CA4C4A4> /usr/lib/system/libcopyfile.dylib
0x989cc000 - 0x989cdfff  com.apple.TrustEvaluationAgent (2.0 - 1) <4BB39578-2F5E-3A50-AD59-9C0AB99472EB> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/TrustEvaluationAgent.framework/Versions/A/TrustEvaluationAgent
0x989ce000 - 0x989d2fff  com.apple.CommonPanels (1.2.5 - 94) <EA47550D-7DAF-30D9-91DB-1FB594CC8522> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels
0x989d3000 - 0x98a22ffb  com.apple.AppleVAFramework (5.0.14 - 5.0.14) <71C9D388-E607-3DB4-9FD3-FC918EB4A835> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AppleVA.framework/Versions/A/AppleVA
0x98a23000 - 0x98a61fff  libRIP.A.dylib (600.0.0 - compatibility 64.0.0) <0FAB8C29-2A1B-3E25-BA34-BDD832B828DA> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libRIP.A.dylib
0x98a62000 - 0x98a62ff0  com.apple.ApplicationServices (41 - 41) <C48EF6B2-ABF9-35BD-A07A-A38EC0008294> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ApplicationServices
0x98a63000 - 0x98ac5ffb  com.apple.datadetectorscore (3.0 - 179.4) <32262124-6F75-3999-86DA-590A90BA464C> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DataDetectorsCore.framework/Versions/A/DataDetectorsCore
0x98afb000 - 0x98efdff6  libLAPACK.dylib (??? - ???) <00BE0221-8564-3F87-9F6B-8A910CF2F141> /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libLAPACK.dylib
0x98efe000 - 0x98f32ff8  libssl.0.9.8.dylib (44.0.0 - compatibility 0.9.8) <567E922C-E64F-321B-9A47-6B18BF481625> /usr/lib/libssl.0.9.8.dylib
0x98f75000 - 0x98f91ffc  libPng.dylib (??? - ???) <75F41C08-E187-354C-8115-79387F57FC2C> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libPng.dylib
0x98f92000 - 0x98fb0ff7  libsystem_kernel.dylib (1699.24.8 - compatibility 1.0.0) <124A6CE3-3934-3994-9D0A-E85A0C0BF082> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x991b3000 - 0x994f7ffb  com.apple.HIToolbox (1.8 - ???) <9540400F-B432-3116-AEAD-C1FBCFE67E73> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
0x9950c000 - 0x99517ffe  libbz2.1.0.dylib (1.0.5 - compatibility 1.0.0) <B63F5D07-93B3-3F02-BFB7-472B4ED3521F> /usr/lib/libbz2.1.0.dylib
0x99518000 - 0x99520ff3  libunwind.dylib (30.0.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <E8DA8CEC-12D6-3C8D-B2E2-5D567C8F3CB5> /usr/lib/system/libunwind.dylib
0x99686000 - 0x996a8ff1  com.apple.PerformanceAnalysis (1.10 - 10) <FEB4AEF4-F8C0-3A20-A004-B236B2F0B02B> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/PerformanceAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/PerformanceAnalysis
0x996a9000 - 0x996abffb  libRadiance.dylib (??? - ???) <4721057E-5A1F-3083-911B-200ED1CE7678> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libRadiance.dylib
0x996ac000 - 0x996afffb  com.apple.help (1.3.2 - 42) <B1E6701C-7473-30B2-AB5A-AFC9A4823694> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framework/Versions/A/Help
0x996b0000 - 0x99712ff3  libstdc++.6.dylib (52.0.0 - compatibility 7.0.0) <266CE9B3-526A-3C41-BA58-7AE66A3B15FD> /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib
0x99713000 - 0x99764ff9  com.apple.ScalableUserInterface (1.0 - 1) <3C39DF4D-5CAE-373A-BE08-8CD16E514337> /System/Library/Frameworks/QuartzCore.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ScalableUserInterface.framework/Versions/A/ScalableUserInterface
0x99765000 - 0x9977cff8  com.apple.CoreMediaAuthoring (2.0 - 890) <53F48529-E89F-3518-B888-C8C735C16F8F> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreMediaAuthoring.framework/Versions/A/CoreMediaAuthoring
0x99858000 - 0x9985effd  com.apple.CommerceCore (1.0 - 17) <E59CD307-58E2-35FD-9131-B38978799910> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CommerceKit.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommerceCore.framework/Versions/A/CommerceCore
0x99902000 - 0x999c4fff  com.apple.CoreServices.OSServices (478.37 - 478.37) <00A48B2A-2D75-3FD0-9805-61BB11710879> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/OSServices
0x999c5000 - 0x999ccffd  com.apple.NetFS (4.0 - 4.0) <AE731CFE-1B2E-3E46-8759-843F5FB8C24F> /System/Library/Frameworks/NetFS.framework/Versions/A/NetFS
0x999cd000 - 0x999d4fff  com.apple.agl (3.1.4 - AGL-3.1.4) <39BB17D3-4CF5-303C-BE8E-E07924AB2E66> /System/Library/Frameworks/AGL.framework/Versions/A/AGL
0x99c76000 - 0x99c77ff7  libsystem_sandbox.dylib (??? - ???) <D272A77F-7F47-32CD-A36E-5A3FB966ED55> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_sandbox.dylib
0x99c78000 - 0x99c7bffd  libCoreVMClient.dylib (??? - ???) <2D135537-F9A6-33B1-9B01-6ECE7E929C00> /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libCoreVMClient.dylib
0x99c8e000 - 0x99c8efff  com.apple.audio.units.AudioUnit (1.7.2 - 1.7.2) <2E71E880-25D1-3210-8D26-21EC47ED810C> /System/Library/Frameworks/AudioUnit.framework/Versions/A/AudioUnit
0x99c8f000 - 0x99c9dfff  libdispatch.dylib (187.7.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <B50C62AD-0B5B-34C3-A491-ECFD72ED505E> /usr/lib/system/libdispatch.dylib
0x99d0d000 - 0x99d17ff2  com.apple.audio.SoundManager (3.9.4.1 - 3.9.4.1) <2A089CE8-9760-3F0F-B77D-29A78940EA17> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonSound.framework/Versions/A/CarbonSound
0x9a246000 - 0x9a247ff4  libremovefile.dylib (21.1.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <6DE3FDC7-0BE0-3791-B6F5-C15422A8AFB8> /usr/lib/system/libremovefile.dylib
0x9a293000 - 0x9a2dcff7  libGLU.dylib (??? - ???) <AEA2AD9A-EEDD-39B8-9B28-4C7C1BACB594> /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGLU.dylib
0x9a32c000 - 0x9a458ff9  com.apple.CFNetwork (520.3.2 - 520.3.2) <58021CA7-0C91-3395-8278-8BD76E03BDCB> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork
0x9b5d8000 - 0x9b5e5fff  libGL.dylib (??? - ???) <30E6DED6-0213-3A3B-B2B3-310E33301CCB> /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGL.dylib
0x9b603000 - 0x9b604fff  libDiagnosticMessagesClient.dylib (??? - ???) <DB3889C2-2FC2-3087-A2A2-4C319455E35C> /usr/lib/libDiagnosticMessagesClient.dylib
0x9b605000 - 0x9b609ffd  IOSurface (??? - ???) <CAF0B3F2-1589-3139-8A59-E54797C02EA0> /System/Library/Frameworks/IOSurface.framework/Versions/A/IOSurface
0x9b60a000 - 0x9bc9bfe3  libclh.dylib (4.0.3 - 4.0.3) <6A8847F2-1F44-3B30-A770-DAAF8D1D36C2> /System/Library/Extensions/GeForceGLDriver.bundle/Contents/MacOS/libclh.dylib
0x9bcdf000 - 0x9bd9fffb  com.apple.ColorSync (4.7.1 - 4.7.1) <68413C12-2380-3B73-AF74-B9E069DFB89A> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync
0x9bda0000 - 0x9bdcefe7  libSystem.B.dylib (159.1.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <07D9A827-9567-34C2-9022-AF4BF975C9A7> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
0x9bdd7000 - 0x9bebffff  libxml2.2.dylib (10.3.0 - compatibility 10.0.0) <A1B07527-9C74-3107-A972-9795B817D683> /usr/lib/libxml2.2.dylib
0x9bec0000 - 0x9bee3fff  com.apple.CoreVideo (1.7 - 70.1) <3520F013-DF91-364E-88CF-ED252A7BD0AE> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreVideo.framework/Versions/A/CoreVideo
0x9bee4000 - 0x9bee4ffe  libkeymgr.dylib (23.0.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <7F0E8EE2-9E8F-366F-9988-E2F119DB9A82> /usr/lib/system/libkeymgr.dylib
0x9beeb000 - 0x9beecfff  liblangid.dylib (??? - ???) <C8C204E9-1785-3785-BBD7-22D59493B98B> /usr/lib/liblangid.dylib
0x9bfee000 - 0x9bff1ffc  libpam.2.dylib (3.0.0 - compatibility 3.0.0) <6FFDBD60-5EC6-3EFA-996B-EE030443C16C> /usr/lib/libpam.2.dylib
0x9bff4000 - 0x9c156fff  com.apple.QTKit (7.7.1 - 2315) <21C7F00E-FBB9-3F12-AE51-06A630ECAC5E> /System/Library/Frameworks/QTKit.framework/Versions/A/QTKit
0x9c157000 - 0x9c193ffa  libGLImage.dylib (??? - ???) <05B36DC4-6B90-33E6-AE6A-10CAA1B70606> /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGLImage.dylib
0x9c194000 - 0x9c19dfff  libc++abi.dylib (14.0.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <FEB5330E-AD5D-37A0-8AB2-0820F311A2C8> /usr/lib/libc++abi.dylib
0x9c1aa000 - 0x9c225ffb  com.apple.ApplicationServices.ATS (317.5.0 - ???) <7A8B0538-8E2E-3355-81E3-0C0A7EBED28E> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS
0x9c226000 - 0x9c226ff2  com.apple.CoreServices (53 - 53) <7CB7AA95-D5A7-366A-BB8A-035AA9E582F8> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices
0x9c278000 - 0x9c2bbffd  libcommonCrypto.dylib (55010.0.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <6B35F203-5D72-335A-A4BC-CC89FEC0E14F> /usr/lib/system/libcommonCrypto.dylib
0x9c2bc000 - 0x9c2c2ffb  com.apple.print.framework.Print (7.1 - 247.1) <5D7ADC17-D8EF-3958-9C0C-AA45B7717FBA> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print
0x9c2c3000 - 0x9c6b6ffb  com.apple.VideoToolbox (1.0 - 705.61) <1278DC1E-AF77-34C1-9A60-B61ECF806E4D> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/VideoToolbox.framework/Versions/A/VideoToolbox
0x9c6b7000 - 0x9c6dfff7  libxslt.1.dylib (3.24.0 - compatibility 3.0.0) <5158C760-D168-3842-AAE0-3B146B3537A7> /usr/lib/libxslt.1.dylib
0x9c6e0000 - 0x9c709ff1  com.apple.CoreServicesInternal (113.12 - 113.12) <CFF78E35-81F5-36C2-A59F-BF85561AC16D> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreServicesInternal.framework/Versions/A/CoreServicesInternal
0x9c70a000 - 0x9c70afff  com.apple.vecLib (3.7 - vecLib 3.7) <8CCF99BF-A4B7-3C01-9219-B83D2AE5F82A> /System/Library/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/vecLib
0x9c70b000 - 0x9c710ff7  libmacho.dylib (800.0.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <943213F3-CC9B-328E-8A6F-16D85C4274C7> /usr/lib/system/libmacho.dylib
0x9c711000 - 0x9cbedff6  libBLAS.dylib (??? - ???) <134ABFC6-F29E-3DC5-8E57-E13CB6EF7B41> /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libBLAS.dylib
0x9cbee000 - 0x9cc17ffe  com.apple.opencl (1.50.69 - 1.50.69) <44120D48-00A2-3C09-9055-36D309F1E7C9> /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenCL.framework/Versions/A/OpenCL
0x9cc18000 - 0x9cc58ff7  com.apple.NavigationServices (3.7 - 193) <16A8BCC8-7343-3A90-88B3-AAA334DF615F> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/NavigationServices.framework/Versions/A/NavigationServices
0x9cc59000 - 0x9cce0fff  com.apple.print.framework.PrintCore (7.1 - 366.1) <BD9120A6-BFB0-3796-A903-05F627F696DF> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/PrintCore.framework/Versions/A/PrintCore
0x9cce1000 - 0x9cd45fff  com.apple.framework.IOKit (2.0 - ???) <8DAF4991-7359-3D1B-AC69-3CBA797D1E3C> /System/Library/Frameworks/IOKit.framework/Versions/A/IOKit
0x9cdfd000 - 0x9ce33ff7  com.apple.AE (527.7 - 527.7) <7BAFBF18-3997-3656-9823-FD3B455056A4> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE
0x9ce34000 - 0x9ce35fff  libsystem_blocks.dylib (53.0.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <B04592B1-0924-3422-82FF-976B339DF567> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_blocks.dylib

External Modification Summary:
  Calls made by other processes targeting this process:
    task_for_pid: 2
    thread_create: 0
    thread_set_state: 0
  Calls made by this process:
    task_for_pid: 0
    thread_create: 0
    thread_set_state: 0
  Calls made by all processes on this machine:
    task_for_pid: 1117
    thread_create: 0
    thread_set_state: 0

VM Region Summary:
ReadOnly portion of Libraries: Total=186.6M resident=75.5M(40%) swapped_out_or_unallocated=111.1M(60%)
Writable regions: Total=680.8M written=590.1M(87%) resident=612.6M(90%) swapped_out=0K(0%) unallocated=68.1M(10%)
 
REGION TYPE                      VIRTUAL
===========                      =======
CG backing stores                  3232K
CG raster data                       64K
CG shared images                   3416K
CoreGraphics                          8K
CoreServices                       1396K
IOKit                              13.0M
MALLOC                            634.7M
MALLOC guard page                    48K
Memory tag=242                       12K
Memory tag=243                        4K
Stack                              64.5M
VM_ALLOCATE                        16.2M
__CI_BITMAP                          80K
__DATA                             14.2M
__DATA/__OBJC                        64K
__IMAGE                             528K
__IMPORT                              4K
__LINKEDIT                         46.8M
__OBJC                             1592K
__PAGEZERO                            4K
__TEXT                            139.8M
__UNICODE                           544K
mapped file                       130.3M
shared memory                       888K
shared pmap                        9628K
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TOTAL                               1.1G

Model: MacBookAir3,1, BootROM MBA31.0061.B07, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 1.6 GHz, 4 GB, SMC 1.67f4
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 320M, NVIDIA GeForce 320M, PCI, 256 MB
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 2 GB, DDR3, 1067 MHz, 0x80AD, 0x484D54333235533642465238412D47372020
Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM0, 2 GB, DDR3, 1067 MHz, 0x80AD, 0x484D54333235533642465238412D47372020
AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0xD1), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.100.98.75.19)
Bluetooth: Version 4.0.3f12, 2 service, 11 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en0
Serial ATA Device: APPLE SSD TS128C, 121.33 GB
USB Device: FaceTime Camera (Built-in), apple_vendor_id, 0x850a, 0x24600000 / 2
USB Device: BRCM2070 Hub, 0x0a5c  (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0x04500000 / 3
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, apple_vendor_id, 0x821b, 0x04530000 / 6
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, apple_vendor_id, 0x0243, 0x04300000 / 2
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Re: Mac users, read this

Postby Hawk » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:09 pm

Tat, when I installed the patch I did not get any error message. It said "The following files/directories are successfully installed
GUIUpdater.tar.gz >> /Applications/FlightGear.app/Contents".

I just downloaded it again and installed it again, same message, but this time it worked!

Thanks!
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Location: Maine, USA
Version: r319
OS: OS X 10.6.8, 10.7.4

Re: Mac users, read this

Postby Boeing » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:34 pm

Hey guys! So i got 2.6 and it worked well... except for the fact that the best FR I got was 8!

My Mac: 10.6.8

Processor: 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7

Graphics:
Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 512 MB
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Device ID: 0x0a29
Revision ID: 0x00a2
ROM Revision: 3560
gMux Version: 1.9.21
Displays:
Color LCD:
Resolution: 1440 x 900
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Built-In: Yes

Intel HD Graphics:

Chipset Model: Intel HD Graphics
Type: GPU
Bus: Built-In
VRAM (Total): 288 MB
Vendor: Intel (0x8086)
Device ID: 0x0046
Revision ID: 0x0018
gMux Version: 1.9.21
Won't be doing much anymore....
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Re: Mac users, read this

Postby jobusshen » Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:20 am

PanAm wrote in Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:07 pm:This may seem like nonsense... but after installing the new MAC 2.6 release (with the fgfs patch) I still found the performance "choppy", even after adjusting the quality/performance slider. So I went back to reinstalling the "RC2" version, and to my surprise, works better than it ever did before?? I believe the problem with the new 2.6 release is somewhere within the "scenery". For now, I'm staying with my "improved" RC2 version.


Yes. I absolutely agree with you. My flightgear was perfect before 2.6. Now with 2.6 it stutters really bad.

Computer specs:

Macbook Pro 15"
Mac OS 10.6.8
2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Dup
4GB 1067 MHz DDR3
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Re: Mac users, read this

Postby someguy » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:32 pm

2.6 seems to have even more problems with the 777 and f16 models than older versions. One 777 in view drops my frame rate to 7 fps, two 777s drops it to 2. Model shader is disabled.

Delete those two planes from your Aircraft folder and see if it's better.
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