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Re: EDDF-Triangle

Postby jomo » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:01 pm

scighera wrote in Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:51 am:It has been an exciting experience, even if I do have a lot to learn about rules and ATC "slang". I do have also to check my apt.dat, since the ILS of EDDF rwy 25R and 07L brings me to a "fake rwy" shifted north some 800 m with respect to the existing one !!
Ciao, Paolo

Thanks for that positive feedback
To your above problem with the scenery: Have a look into http://www.emmerich-j.de/EDDF/EDDF-ELLX-ETAR.html
There is described the problem with the new runway in EDDF - that the new one actually has an old name and thus the ILS is messed up.
I suggest you download the http://www.emmerich-j.de/EDDF/EDDF-ELLX-ETAR.zip and hang it in your scenery definitions on first place - and only after that the one you have now on first place. That way you have no problems at EDDF and still have the newest other staff from outside EDDF! That is described in the above HTML.

Anyhow: The http://www.emmerich-j.de/EDDF is the best homepage in the world (for Triangle-fans!). Maybe worthwhile a visit.
Hope I see you more often
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Re: EDDF-Triangle

Postby Jester » Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:42 pm

AJC wrote in Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:58 am:With the stall speeds and ILS landing, ALL pilots should really be familiar with the planes systems and stall speed.


Reminds me of this funny ATC transcript (probably fake, but funny nevertheless!)

Tower: "AF1733, You're on an eight mile final for 25R. You have a UH-1 three miles ahead of you on final; reduce speed to 130 knots."
AF1733: "Rog-O, Frankfurt. We're bringin' this big bird back to one-hundred and thirty knots fur ya."
Tower (a few minutes later): "AF33, helicopter traffic at 90 knots now one-and-a-half miles ahead of you; reduce speed further to 110 knots."
AF1733: "AF thirty-three reinin' this here bird back further to 110 knots"
Tower: "AF33, you are three miles to touchdown, helicopter traffic now one mile ahead of you; reduce speed to 90 knots"
AF1733 ( sounding a little miffed): "Sir, do you know what the stall speed of this here C-130 is?!"
Tower (without the slightest hesitation): "No, but if you ask your co-pilot, he can probably tell you."
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Re: EDDF-Triangle

Postby AJC » Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:10 am

haha very good ;)
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Re: EDDF-Triangle

Postby Arthur Maiden » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:26 am

LOL...


funny :) was this in america somewhere?
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Re: EDDF-Triangle

Postby sim » Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:38 am

LOL Good one, Kinda same profile as this ad, already in "jokes" posts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXNOMTXWqY&feature=related
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Re: EDDF-Triangle

Postby D-EKEW » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:38 am

NEW SCENERY AVAILABLE

It includes some of the newest features in FG including:
- 850 format taxiways for ELLX! Now you can acually follow the taxiway centerline at night. Thanks to the excellent and ungoing work of Pete and Chris.
- More Hangars with doors opening when clicked upon. These doors will move even over the mp network (only if you use FG GIT later than beginning of Oct. 2011, a big thanks to Anders). Try this and keep your plane dry:
With a B1900D (or smaller aircraft), start fgfs with:
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--altitude=1222 --lon=6.207699 --lat=49.629843 --heading=150
or
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--altitude=1222 --lon=6.208312 --lat=49.630045 --heading=150

If you want a bigger aircraft (777-200ER or smaller) use:
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--altitude=1178 --lon=6.201277 --lat=49.617283 --heading=330
or
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--altitude=1178 --lon=6.200236 --lat=49.616888 --heading=330

- and D-79's holdingpoint lights.

DOWNLOAD at: http://www.emmerich-j.de/EDDF/EDDF-ELLX-ETAR.zip
or for more info: http://www.emmerich-j.de/S1.html

See you soon at Luxemburg!

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Re: EDDF-Triangle

Postby AndersG » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:27 am

D-EKEW wrote in Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:38 am:These doors will move even over the mp network (only if you use FG GIT later than beginning of Oct. 2011, a big thanks to Anders).


For the doors to operate over MP you also need to enable that feature with the option --prop:/scenery/share-events=1.

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Re: EDDF-Triangle

Postby jomo » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:13 pm

As of today we changed the "EDDF-ELLX-ETAR.zip" to the new "EDDF-ELLX.zip", see
http://www.emmerich-j.de/EDDF/EDDF-ELLX.zip
With that we now added the ILS signals to the new runways, and will start operating on all 4 runways in EDDF. Sorry enough we still have to juggle a little with the runway-names, because of the many visitors who will arrive without having the new EDDF-ELLX.zip installed. But with a little good will on all sides we should be able to operate close to the real world. The runway usage will be:
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Reality     EDDF now       ISL-frequency     usage
25L/07R     25L/07R       110.70 / 110.95    primarily Landings, especially for Biggies (747, A380, etc)
25C/07C     25R/07L       109.50 / 110.55   Starts (ATC and whoever wants to, may call it 25C/07C)
25R/07L     25N/07N       111.35 / 111.75   Landings only (not for 747, A380 etc.)
18            18                none                   Starts only

For a better understanding see the actual traces from todays real life operation: (thanks to http://casper.umwelthaus.org/dfs/ )
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See especially that funny dip southwards when taking of towards the West: That is right now the hottest discussion in the EDDF-Reality: It is officially to increase the safty for those GoingArround when Landing on 25R - and actually even more reduces noise over highly populated areas - of curse people in the south having to live now with more noise, do not like that at all - it is a very hot issue in newspapers, courts, demonstrations, etc.

In a next step we will prepare some easy to follow STARS (ILS landing procedures) and SID (ILS departure procedures) similar to those traces - to be offered during our ACT-sessions.

Let's hear if you would like that.
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Re: EDDF-Triangle

Postby D-EKEW » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:31 pm

The above download incorporates the following changes to ELLX scenery:
- Groundnet file extended with an actual groundnet (before just parkpositions). Many thanks to Hansolo who put in the hard work!
- Added SID/STAR procedures (can be selected in route manager)
- Small fixes to ELLX terrain (runway lighting, PAPI)
- added some more buildings

Have fun flying!
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Re: EDDF-Triangle

Postby jomo » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:55 pm

I have placed the new EDDF-Ground-Layout onto the homepage. To my knowledge all Browsers do allow to print it direct from the menu-bar "file --> print". See:
http://www.emmerich-j.de/GND-tot.png

You can also call it from Title-Bar of any of the HomePages
http://www.emmerich-j.de/EDDF

If You did NOT download the new scenery this year - you should do so, there are some updates (ILS-Frequencies, Yellow Sidelines for taxiways, etc.). See the description inside the package
http://www.emmerich-j.de/EDDF/EDDF-ELLX.zip

Hope you have even more fun at the EDDF-Triangle
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Re: EDDF-Triangle

Postby Johan G » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:07 am

jomo wrote in Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:55 pm:If You did NOT download the new scenery this year - you should do so, there are some updates (ILS-Frequencies, Yellow Sidelines for taxiways, etc.).

Is that scenery compatible with FlightGear 2.4.0, or would one need GIT or wait for 2.6.0?
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Re: EDDF-Triangle

Postby jomo » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:44 am

Johan G wrote in Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:07 am:Is that scenery compatible with FlightGear 2.4.0, or would one need GIT or wait for 2.6.0?

To my knowledge it is compatible with all FlightGear levels and todays GIT (I myself use 2.4 and GIT).

But see the 3 steps in http://www.emmerich-j.de/EDDF/EDDF-ELLX.html for what was changed. In general that are
- $FG_scenery/ e000n40 and e000n50 (automatically when posting the EDDF-ELLX scenery as first scenery
- $FG_scenery/airports/ E/D/D/EDDF... and E/L/L/ELLX... (also changed when using the EDDF-ELLX as first scenery
- $FG_ROOT/airports/apt.dat.gz with step2 (copying the new nav.dat)
- $FG_ROOT/Textures.high/Runway with step 3 (copying the new /Runway (pavement))

For all those changes/Fixes we do not know when they will be generally distributed.
But the changes cannot do any harm: In case those areas get affected, the new things will just override (except the scenery EDDF-ELLX - you would have to take it out of your Scenery-pointer - as described in above html.!)
Hope you enjoy it!
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Re: EDDF-Triangle

Postby D-EKEW » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:55 pm

Is that scenery compatible with FlightGear 2.4.0, or would one need GIT or wait for 2.6.0?


It is all in the "version 7" format, so also usable for 2.4 or below (not sure how far below, tested it with 2.0 at one point).

Cheers,

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Re: EDDF-Triangle

Postby Johan G » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:48 am

Thanks, to both of you! :)
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Re: EDDF-Triangle

Postby sgofferj » Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:31 pm

I notice some problems with the scenery. Some objects are hovering in the air and about 12nm NE of ELLX there is a pretty ugly break in the terrain. Behind this break, the textures are messed up. Also Atlas seems to be unable to render maptiles from this area.

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