Discussions about
restricted areas at EDDF (for all other APs it is similar):
It's nice to see how many of you discuss what is restricted at EDDF and what jomo is doing.
I just wonder why nobody of you guys (big pilots!?) gets the idea looking for Charts! There are thousands of aeronautical maps. Let me just name the easily available
https://skyvector.com/?id=EDDF&zoom=3 --> see especially the indicators e.g. FL100/65 at the outer boundaries of EDDF - meaning: restricted between FL100 and 65. So in general you must be above fl100 to cross EDDF.
(included in that restricted area are also ETOU and EDFE). jomo does not really care if one of you wants to land there without ATC -- but I do expect that you inform me if you are approaching those 2 and be prepared for advises if other traffic gets endangered. By the way: You see exactingly those same markings around EDDF also in our EDDF-movies at
http://www.emmerich-j.de/EDDF/Films/films.html The outside of that area
is usually not a must to be controlled by ATC-EDDF! In real life there are hundreds of other ATC's responsible (area, APR, Dep, Final, taxi, etc etc!) .
BUT even if EDDF-ATC-jomo is legally not authorized --> to my knowledge most pilots would like to know as soon as possible how to approach on what route for what rw plus ATIS, etc. - and how to get lined up into the other traffic.
AND: Nobody is forced to accept EDDF-ATC advises! If you do not want to be controlled - just say so and you get neglected --> then you can do whatever you want - nobody cares!
Is there really a problem with that procedure??