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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby Volador » Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:23 am

I had 10 minutes to test and the turbo Porter is a tricky beast, the startup tutorial gets most of the way and then stops at set contol to low idle even if the control is at low idle. I'd need more time (which I don't have this week)
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby TheEagle » Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:50 am

Which one, the one from FGaddon ?
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby Volador » Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:11 pm

It's the one with TheEagle credited for the FDM
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby MariuszXC » Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:47 pm

Volador wrote in Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:05 pm:Your pics look very vibrant, I wonder if I'm missing some scenery settings, or maybe the price of high realistic settings is a more subdue image...


As promised I checked my settings in Graphics Options:

Rendering: ALS
Terrain Q: High
Model Effects: Enabled
Water Effects: Low
Clouds Detail: High
Wind Effects: Enabled
Overlay: Enabled
Anti-aliasing: Disabled
Shadow Quality: High
Dynamic Lighting: checked

Scenery:
Pylons and p.l.: Basic
Detailed roads &r.: Enabled
Buildings: OSM Data
Random Scenery Objects: Disabled
Autogen Vegetation: Medium Density
OSM Trees: Disabled
Vegetation Shadows: Disabled
Scenery Objects: Enabled

Atmospheric Effects:
Particles: checked
Precipitation: checked
3D clouds: checked automatically by AW

Weather:
Adwanced, terrain presampling checked, thermals, cloud shadows and realistic visibility checked,
ground haze: thin
air pollution: clean
for: smooth
max visibility: 120km


FG: 2020.4 - recent git
OSG: 3.6.5
Graphics/OpenGL:
- vendor: AMD
- renderer: TAHITI (, LLVM 15.0.7, DRM 2.50, 5.15.0-40-generic)
- version: 4.50 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 22.2.5
- GLSL ver.: 4.50

So.. there is nothing obviously unusual, besides AMD graphics, which is a minority. Or maybe TerrainQ in Ultra mode is significantly different...

Certainly there are differences between graphics platforms. For example, on my other computer with integrated Intel gfx, I see the exact same splash screen *significantly* darker.

Edit: It seems it is the terrain quality setting. Comparison of High vs Ultra:
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby Volador » Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:08 pm

That's a very thorough graphics report Mariusz, thank you. As for Wednesday, @Whoosh are you posting the route in the Event thread? It would seem the jury is out on the aircraft choice so I'm guessing we go for our favourite.
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby Woosh » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:08 pm

Hello folks,

Volador wrote in Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:08 pm:@Whoosh are you posting the route in the Event thread?

I am 0K to do it later tonight.
Interesting In my mind I did not switched from "debate" to "decided".
Funny prank of my autistic mind.

@Mariusz
Thank you for your report and time.
Note, there is 1 more set of parameters that will impact the graphics:

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The sliders:
- Dust Cover
- Wetness
- Vegetation
- Season

might also be in a "non default" position/value.

When we had the LILO LOWI Adrenaline Challenge, we flown low and fast and changed some of them in order to improve "Terrain awareness".

In the case of the Grand Canyon, the [Season] will have little or no effect since the ground texture onto which the modification are applied is not in use.
But trees aspect is impacted.
Although, the other slider does impact the picture.

Beds-lake are not burning, no emergency to dive in this. We also could come briefly on this Wednesday.

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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby TheEagle » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:31 pm

@Volador oh okay you must have my custom version installed then. Condition lever is not (yet) operative except for cutoff function - so please just start it up manually following the checklist (or using the autostart from the menu ?)
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby Woosh » Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:44 am

Information ZULU posted in https://forum.flightgear.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=39213&start=500#p412588

Questions / Doubts / Ideas ?

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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby Volador » Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:40 pm

Thanks for posting the event @Whoosh. I'll turn up in the max powered J3 cub and if I struggle I'll switch to the dhc6 or possibly the Britten Norman Islander - although when I gave the BNI a spin I noticed some unusual FDM characteristics on some flap settings so it might be that the one star for the fdm is accurate. Ok, Cub or Dhc6 for me
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby Woosh » Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:17 pm

lovely!

and thank you to bring up the BNI in conversation.

I has impulsed me to discover it better.
My knowledge about that plane was limited to some accident occurred about 20 years ago in Scotland due if due to fatigue.

Did not know we had one in FG.

I will come and fly my happy C182 36"

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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby Volador » Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:48 pm

I've actually had the privilage of flying a BNI many years ago, (maybe only an hour in total) hence the reason I went hunting for it.
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby Woosh » Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:58 pm

:-)
do you, Volador, per chance able to recollection the noise comfort/discomfort comparing with some other similar experience? (dornier/twin otter/...)

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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby Volador » Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:27 pm

@Whoosh, I can remember it was less noisy than when I was squashed into the back with the door off with 8 others waiting jump out on many occasions. I remember it was quite compact and took off like a rocket with just myself and the pilot - he let me rotate and inexperience meant I didn't push forward quite enough so it was a steeper T.O. but it didn't really matter with all that power (he was in my ear telling me to check it though, I do remember that). I can only compare it to a 172 (not that much difference in the cabin size) and a couple of gliders which are much less noisy :p , I've not had opportunity for others :( Have you flown a dhc6?
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby Woosh » Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:03 am

Volador wrote in Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:27 pm:Have you flown a dhc6?

not myself "flown"
I still was teenager

copilot seat
not really co-piloting

@ that epoch I was giving "a hand" in an ACFT maintenance facility
I suppose: seating the young boy and letting have the pilot vibe was part of the payment...
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby tastybassy » Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:38 pm

If it's not too late to join;
I'd like to try the route in the stock c172
NCA22T.

I was disconnected by power outage at the last group flight I was able to join, so fingers crossed that won't happen again
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