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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby Volador » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:51 pm

Just for future nav events, here's a fairly good tutorial on flying radials (MSFS in a 172 but the theory is the same). I did spot one mistake where he makes an error describing the course 'from' and 'to' near the departure airport but it's cleared up shortly afterwards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2-4iDnWKk
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby benih » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:52 am

MariuszXC wrote in Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:11 pm:
Ysop wrote in Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:05 pm:Thanks for the trip preparation!

Amphibious, high altitude, short field..


Yes, I tried today with amphibious C172p with upgraded engine. It is a lot of fun :-)
If one wants to keep it realistic and fly with floats attached all the way, then some mountain passes are a real challenge. I had to backtrack along valleys, collecting climb.. 8)


I would wholeheartedly pick up your gauntlet :)
If no one cares i may lag behind trying to climb.

That being said, we have a major ISP issue here at my village, some drunken(?) construction worker ate a core backbone fiber cable with his excavator.
I’m not sure this is fixed by the evening, or if so i have enough time to download stuff.
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby TheEagle » Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:32 pm

benih wrote in Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:52 am:some drunken(?) construction worker ate a core backbone fiber cable with his excavator.

:mrgreen:
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby TheEagle » Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:24 pm

I will do delivery flight from LEBL to LFIM using the 787 intercontinental ( or was it 777 intercontinetal ?) beginning 16:00 UTC - just in case someone want's to join me :wink:
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby OO ZVY » Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:37 pm

hello,
will try to join this evening with the T6. I have no time to customize a anphibian plane with my 'setup'
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby MariuszXC » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:26 pm

Crossing the border with the floats was, well.., borderline :)
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and that was the reason for the floats to begin with:
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at our final destination I had this strange sinking feeling..
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do I look like a flowerpot yet? :shock:

All in all, good company, very scenic route, but worst FG experience since a very long time. Next kept: crashing on me, dumping core and behaving erratically. Some of what I had:
Code: Select all
1816.76 [WARN]:OSG        PNG lib warning : iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile
 3061.29 [ALRT]:navaid     Failed to load flight-plan in GPX format. No route found.
*** Error in `./fgfs': free(): corrupted unsorted chunks: 0x00000000425851c0 ***
======= Backtrace: =========
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x777f5)[0x7fb1ce24f7f5]
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x8038a)[0x7fb1ce25838a]
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(cfree+0x4c)[0x7fb1ce25c58c]
./fgfs[0x1082d5f]
./fgfs[0x1083188]
./fgfs[0x10835a3]
./fgfs[0x10895f4]
./fgfs[0x108968e]
...
./fgfs[0x565546]
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xf0)[0x7fb1ce1f8840]
./fgfs[0x579ed9]
======= Memory map: ========
00400000-0189a000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 13387068                           /.../compile/fg_next/install/flightgear/bin/fgfs
01a9a000-01afc000 r--p 0149a000 08:08 13387068                           /.../compile/fg_next/install/flightgear/bin/fgfs
01afc000-01b0c000 rw-p 014fc000 08:08 13387068                           /.../compile/fg_next/install/flightgear/bin/fgfs
01b0c000-02f31000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
03ef3000-43f44000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0                                  [heap]
7fb0b8000000-7fb0b97a5000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
7fb0b97a5000-7fb0bc000000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
7fb0c0000000-7fb0c3ff5000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
7fb0c3ff5000-7fb0c4000000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
7fb0c467f000-7fb0c477f000 rw-s 00000000 00:19 1493                       /i915 (deleted)
7fb0c477f000-7fb0c4aff000 rw-s 1280d4000 00:06 339                       /dev/dri/card0
7fb0c4dff000-7fb0c4fbf000 rw-s 127ea4000 00:06 339                       /dev/dri/card0
7fb0c4fbf000-7fb0c50bf000 rw-s 00000000 00:19 1401                       /i915 (deleted)
7fb0c53bf000-7fb0c573f000 rw-s 127aec000 00:06 339                       /dev/dri/card0
7fb0c593f000-7fb0c5a3f000 rw-s 00000000 00:19 1106                       /i915 (deleted)
7fb0c5a3f000-7fb0c5b3f000 rw-s 00000000 00:19 1037                       /i915 (deleted)
7fb0c5b3f000-7fb0c5c3f000 rw-s 00000000 00:19 1027                       /i915 (deleted)
7fb0c5cbf000-7fb0c603f000 rw-s 12776c000 00:06 339                       /dev/dri/card0
7fb0c603f000-7fb0c613f000 rw-s 00000000 00:19 1358                       /i915 (deleted)
7fb0c613f000-7fb0c623f000 rw-s 00000000 00:19 1339                       /i915 (deleted)
7fb0c623f000-7fb0c633f000 rw-s 00000000 00:19 1330                       /i915 (deleted)
7fb0c633f000-7fb0c643f000 rw-s 00000000 00:19 1375                       /i915 (deleted)
...
7fb10d320000-7fb10d420000 rw-s 00000000 00:19 1240                       /i915 (deleted)
7fb10d420000-7fb10d440000 rw-s 11f28c000 00:06 339                       /dev/dri/card0
7fb10d440000-7fb10d480000 rw-s 120b3c000 00:06 339                       /dev/dri/card0Aborted (core dumped)

some more..

204.27 [ALRT]:general    Canvas constructor: node=/canvas/by-index/texture[3]

In file ../compile/fg_next/install/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/Systems/fuel.xml: line 11
      Property /engines/active-engine/already-started-in-session is already defined.
In file ../compile/fg_next/install/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/JSBSim/Systems/hydrodynamics.xml: line 225
      Property hydro/environment/water-level-ft is already defined.
In file ../compile/fg_next/install/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/JSBSim/Systems/hydrodynamics.xml: line 226
      Property hydro/environment/rho-slug_ft3 is already defined.
In file ../compile/fg_next/install/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/JSBSim/Systems/hydrodynamics.xml: line 227
      Property hydro/environment/kinematic-viscosity-ft2_sec is already defined.
In file ../compile/fg_next/install/flightgear/fgdata/Aircraft/Generic/JSBSim/Systems/hydrodynamics.xml: line 229
      Property hydro/environment/current-from-north-fps is already defined.

This one after trying to restart, when rudders were not responding to control inputs:
 1146.05 [INFO]:nasal      Hobbs system stopped
 1146.06 [INFO]:nasal      Annunciator panel: initialized
 1146.07 [ALRT]:flight     Failed to save initial FDM property state
 1154.00 [INFO]:nasal      0 Greenspace
 1181.01 [INFO]:nasal      Starter on
 1181.45 [INFO]:nasal      Check the throttle!

well, they got responding, in reverse direction and only slightly...
Nothing changed hardwarewise. FG was:
/sim/version/flightgear: 2020.4.0
/sim/version/simgear: 2020.4.0
/sim/version/openscenegraph: 3.6.5
/sim/version/build-id: none
/sim/version/build-number: 0
/sim/version/build-type: Dev
/sim/version/revision: cf4801e11c5b69b107f87191584eefda3c5a9b26

and so on and so forth. When I mentioned previously that this route is a lot of fun, I had a different kind in mind.
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby TheEagle » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:40 pm

Ah, you really missed something after you turned off the photoscenery … Next time you should rather try to turn off ALS !
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby TheEagle » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:41 pm

MariuszXC wrote in Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:26 pm:Crossing the border with the floats was, well.., borderline :)

You mean you got the Borderline syndrome ? :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby MariuszXC » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:19 pm

TheEagle wrote in Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:41 pm:You mean you got the Borderline syndrome ?

Nope :)
But my FG got borderline personality this time :D
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby TheEagle » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:30 pm

MariuszXC wrote in Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:19 pm:But my FG got borderline personality this time

:lol: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen: :lol:
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby benih » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:55 am

Today it looks like my internet is good again.
Sorry that i had miss out the fun yesterday! Maybe i find time to redo the route on my own.
However, I was able to spend the offline-evening finishing the spark plugs fouling simulation on the c182, so it did not go to waste.
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby Volador » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:51 pm

Great route from Eagle last night, I'll take a DHC6 next time, I promise. Here's a few pics:

Mariusz on final
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Eagle on final
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All safely down at the end after a fair few 'das ist nicht gut' moments on the way

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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby TheEagle » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:09 pm

benih wrote in Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:55 am:Sorry that i had miss out the fun yesterday! Maybe i find time to redo the route on my own.

Well, actually Volador wants to redo that trip, and I also liked it very much, so we could do that next Wednesday all together ? :)
I think I will change the route a little bit - but in any case, LFIP will be part again !
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby TheEagle » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:24 pm

Actually I've made an interesting new route from the old one ! :D But please, all bring an aircraft that can do 130 kts at 80 % power ! Yesterday, I did the second part of the flight with the fire warning on :shock: because I used emergency power for quite a while when Volador had got lost. We don't want to have to do an emergency landing in the middle of the Pyrenees mountains !
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby MariuszXC » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:41 pm

Volador wrote in Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:51 pm:Mariusz on final
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What bothers me is that throughout the event I was flying an amphiboius version oc C172p, but on your screenshot floats are missing. Also my registration sign is not present.. It would point to some model properties being not transmitted correctly, but that is puzzling with a production-level plane model... Any idea, what may be going on?
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