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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby TheEagle » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:38 pm

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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby LesterBoffo » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:46 pm

benih wrote in Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:01 pm:Well, fires are ressource hungry.... in a comutational sense.
If we already are at the limits with just the planes, i don't think wildfires is a good idea. Maybe I'm wrong.


Back in 2015 in the online FG USA Tours we did a California mountain wildfire (based out of Lake Tahoe.) online flight, and getting everyone's view of the wildfire was spotty, so I had to make a Google Terrain view map to work from and get ourselves familiar with the shape of the area, prior to flying water bombers in from Tahoe's airport using just VFR and terrain shape to recognize where the fire was.

With modern online services like InciWeb it might be easier to find a way to automatically create burned areas, but slower computers will still have issues with the complex sprites used for the wildfires. Getting FG to actually set the fire from an outside source location? I don't have a clue how to do that.
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby MariuszXC » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:54 pm

The default scenery for this area is also very nice :)

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Another fun event, thanks to everyone!
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby LesterBoffo » Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:03 pm

Would it be too forward of a n00b in these online flights to suggest a small airshow in the later coming weeks at a custom scenery historic WWI aerodrome with WWI biplanes?

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A few years ago I made a custom airfield with buildings and vehicles and other errata, for the Stow Maries historic WWI aerodrome NW of Southend, EGMC, in SW UK. The natural FG scenery landmass has already been marked out for this airfield as cropland and it's a natural for big wheeled, antique bipes, (monoplanes, tripes..) to easily taxi around on. It's a bit bumpy but I've flown every one of my own custom pioneering flight and WWI planes off of Stow Maries without issue. The scenery is an easy models folder install with some special stg.'s made up to locate the buildings and runway chalk numbers.

What do you think? :)
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby benih » Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:52 pm

LesterBoffo wrote in Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:03 pm:What do you think?

WWI? Sounds fun (the planes, not the war), count me in :)

LesterBoffo wrote in Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:20 pm:Someone want to refresh me on the Wednesday Evening Mumble ports and address

The "default" is the normal "mumble-radio.flightgear.fr" service, standard mumble port.
We occasionally connect to fgcom.hallinger.org Mumble 1.4 test server if we want to test the new fgcom mumble plugin, but that is announced in the information post. If its just "mumble", then assume the "mumble-radio.flightgear.fr" service.
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby TheEagle » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:04 am

I don't like tail-draggers :( Weren't there any tricycle planes in the WWI times ?
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby LesterBoffo » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:25 am

Closest to trike LG plane I suppose would the the four-wheeled French two -eater pusher, the Voisin LA3, I made a few years ago.
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Most of the French Lattice tail aircraft are very mellow and easy to ground handle but not exceptionally maneuverable while on the ground,

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I also have made a few Farman Pushers, HF20 F40 and MF11 and MF11-biz. Frankly, learning how to ground handle a small light WWI era tail dragger, the AVRO 504D or any of the Nieuport 12 or 16 scouts would be fine. They ground handle great if you remember to keep the elevators up while it builds speed on the ground and then relax the controls when you reach about 30~35 knots let the tail pop up, and use gentle rudder correction to keep the nose straight.

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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby Johan G » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:27 am

TheEagle wrote in Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:38 pm:Why can't I edit my posts ? The Edit button has gone !

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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby Volador » Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:37 am

LesterBoffo wrote in Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:03 pm:Would it be too forward of a n00b in these online flights to suggest a small airshow in the later coming weeks at a custom scenery historic WWI aerodrome with WWI biplanes?

What do you think? :)


Great idea Les and ideas are welcome from everyone and positively encouraged!

The only parameters (I'd suggest) are the rough time-slot and duration. If anyone is planning a route then around 1hr flying will give us about 1:30/2hr event with missed approaches/discussions etc). Skyvector.com is very easy for this, you don't even need an account (IIRC). Find a good location and just click (or right click) the airports or add GPS locations for turns, it will give you the flight time if you set the speed and cruise altitude. Just copy the link from the top right and post it, you can even 'share' (download) the flight-plan [edit] .gpx [/edit] and import it into the autopilot route manager in FG.

If it was more loose, like ATC practice for example then it's less to organise. My other suggestion is that more complex or scenery based events should be ready to go a week before the date so people have time to download things and check their settings in advance.

Welcome to @Johan by the way! hope to see you on the next one :D

[edit] lining up and holding short at Santander watching Mariusz take off - great to see so many pilots taking part :)

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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby OO ZVY » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:02 am

Early aviation plane is a good idea for air show and local pattern. :P
Should be nice to have a 'camera operator' located on the field to record the event.

Make a good choice of the plane : Flight handling sometime not easy due to FDM or actual aircraft design ( Tailwheel ).
Vickers Vimy test : flight characteristics and ground handling ok, not easy to flare on landing.


I tried the Caproni Ca 3 and Caudron G IV but couldn't control these during taxi or take off....
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby TheEagle » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:07 am

@OOZVY: your video is broken
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby OO ZVY » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:19 am

TheEagle wrote in Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:07 am:@OOZVY: your video is broken

Hello, you can't see the video ? or only the quality is bad ? :-)
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby D-ECHO » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:24 am

It's private, according to YT
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby OO ZVY » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:33 am

D-ECHO wrote in Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:24 am:It's private, according to YT

oups corrected
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Re: Wednesday evening session discussion thread.

Postby benih » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:04 pm

Can you give a hint for planes we can choose from that are reasonably far developed?
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